Quote from a Bushie at work: "Bush is unelectable."

This guy is not a Freeper but he did vote for Bush in 2000. He really shocked me with this one. His reason is Iraq. He said Bush gambled his presidency on Iraq and lost. He blames the recent downturn in the market on the fact that the smart money knows the Dem's will retake the White House now. I of course disagreed with his last remark. The market is down because the deficit will cause inflation and that will cause higher interest rates. The smart money does know that.

Let's take back the Congress while we're at it.

and creating jobs by the millions if they believed a Democrat would be elected and save us from this criminal cabal and their borrow and spend mentality.

Smart money knows that Democrats are VERY good for the economy.

chances, he is not happy with shrub as well. He will likely not vote or maybe vote Kerry with a little more convencing.

Once that sentiment you reported gets around, it won't matter much. Can't predict the future, myself, but I've seen indicators, myself, in the last 24 - 48 hours that tell me bush is now the one fighting the uphill battle. I've been chatting with several upscale white business/professional types - (real estate agent, MD, financial analyst/cpa type guy, attorney) exactly the ones who probably got a larger tax refund this year. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM was anti-bush. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM said a close version of the same thing: "bush certainly has made a mess in Iraq." They're not tying this to Clinton. They're not blaming the Dems. They're not saying "but, but, but, 9/11!" They're sure as heck not talking up the big tax cuts they VERY probably got. They certainly aren't speaking of him as their leader or a good guy or a fellow with a mandate from God. They see bush as having screwed up Iraq, and our standing in the world, but BIGTIME. Not one of them expressed any eagerness for voting for him again. One of 'em, an elegant woman doctor, actually said she thought he wouldn't be reelected (the one out of four who I suspect was already a Democrat - the others are republicans).

He's got stench on him from Iraq. He's starting to look like a loser, because Iraq is looking like a BIG loser, and it's irrevocably TIED TO HIM. This baby's all his. And it's become so big and so awful that I'd bet it will push ANY other issues to the sidelines. Maybe even the economy. By the way, the real estate guy even said that "we're NOT safer now." He also said he has friends fro Greece who say it's not a good time to be an American anywhere else in the world beyond our own borders.

Besides... nobody wants to climb ABOARD a ship that's starting to look like it's sinking.

(Has ALWAYS voted Republican and is voting Kerry.) "Oh, well, this country is in a MESS! I can't even stand to hear him (Bush) when he comes on TV."

Every study or analysis of the market shows this. Here's one:

ABSTRACT
The excess return in the stock market is higher under Democratic than
Republican presidencies:nine percent for the value-weighted and 16 percent
for the equal-weighted portfolio.The difference comes from higher real stock
returns and lower real interest rates,is statistically significant,and is robust
in subsamples.The difference in returns is not explained by business-cycle
variables related to expected returns,and is not concentrated around election
dates.There is no difference in the riskiness of the stock market across
presidencies that could justify a risk premium.The difference in returns
through the political cycle is therefore a puzzle.

http://www.personal.anderson.ucla.edu/rossen.valkanov/Politics.pdf

Thanks

She votes for Bush in 2000 because of the tax cut, but she will not vote for him again, because it was not worth it. She does not care much for Kerry, so I still have my work ahead of me.

Still, good to see another Bush voter lost.

Kerry will win and Dems will regain congress. We can make it happen if we work hard till November.

...basic conservative/Republican/shopping at Wal-Mart stock. Not trying to be snotty -- these are some of her "demographic" facts. Basically a decent person, it seems -- not a Freeper, anyway. So in a recent forwarded e-mail, she says how "disappointed in Bush" she is, and what a big mess he's made.

Now, she adds she doesn't like Kerry, either -- of course, her local media probably pounds the idea to the locals that Kerry is a commie/elitist/medal-pissing sex freak, or something...

The question is now whether folks like her will vote for Kerry, not vote, or hold their nose and "re-elect" the disappointing dauphin?

...one a died-in-the-wool Repub, another a centrist Republican. Last night they both said no vote for Bush. Both would be interested in a Kerry ticket only if Wes Clark is VP.

centerist GOPpers to Kerry. Leaving only the wingnuts as Bushco's base -- with Bushco in a frenzy to appeal them, yet appear like the dauphin's a "regular guy," all at once...

Anytime, no, everytime you have a conversation with a conservative friend or coworker begin it with those words, "Of course Bush is Unelectable now, but ...... " and then just go on with whatever it was you were going to say. It is the perfect way to begin a conversation. Plant the seed. Plant it everywhere.

Thom

and the news was playing on a radio inside. The counter girl said,"I am so sick of hearing about that torture stuff",and I braced myself,figuring I was about to hear some repub nonsense. Instead she said,"look..I'm sorry if you're a bush supporter,but he has got to go!" I not only assured her I agreed,but we ranted on about him for another five minutes. She made my day!