'Let Us Have Faith' Why Rumsfeld must stay (a democrat wrote this)

BY JOSEPH I. LIEBERMAN
Friday, May 14, 2004 12:01 a.m. EDT

WASHINGTON--Watching the reels of pictures from the prison in Iraq was a jarring descent into a world without values or limits or law. I was appalled, of course, by the American guards' lack of any respect for the humanity of their prisoners. But I was also struck and saddened by their lack of respect, as seen in the pictures they took of themselves, for their own humanity, for their own inherent human dignity.

How could these deeds have been done by soldiers wearing the uniform of this country, which has always proudly defined itself by the values in our Declaration of Independence--that every man and woman is endowed by our Creator with inalienable rights, the very rights we are in Iraq to make real for the Iraqi people?

What caused these heinous acts? Was it just the latest example of the reality history reveals, that some soldiers crack under the stress of war? Was it the human weakness of guards exploiting the temporary power they hold over those in their control? Was it directed, encouraged, facilitated or tolerated by higher-ups in the chain of command? Was it somehow also the cumulative effect on a generation raised in an entertainment and Internet culture that has grown increasingly violent and pornographic?
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005079

:puke:

as US voters continue to lose respect for Bush and his domestic poodle, Lieberman.

Massive failure in troop discipline and chain-of-command. A total disregard for the Geneva Convention (which Rummy howled about when Al-Jazeera broadcast pictures of our POWs).

No, no...let's turn this into a PMRC issue. Joe-mentum can bite me, and I mean that in the most pornographic sense of the word due to the cumulative effect of my generation being raised on entertainment and Internet culture.

Joe believes in the television Fifties.

Lieberman is a whore!

...it's the sort of thing that happens any time those in authority put out the message that the Rules of Civilized Conduct don't apply to "those people".

Sometimes it's as bad as the Holocaust or the Rape of Nanking, but even in the US, throughout YOUR entire lifetime, it happens too: in prisons, in cities, and in the countryside.

Unless you think Emmet Till was killed by an avid Grand Theft Auto player, or that a century of lynchings took place in this nation due to gangsta rap....

This scandal is a scandal of leadership at all levels, including the very top. This, and how we respond to it is a REAL moral crisis. If you can't see this is in an entirely different class than your usual cheeze-doodle targets on "morality", then you have no authority on the subject at all.