Very strange new data re Nick Berg and FBI

Apparently, Nick Berg was under suspicion by the FBI of complicity in 9/11 because accused 20th hijacker, Zaccarias Moussaoui, had used Berg’s computer password. Berg apparently met Moussaoui through a chance encounter, but nevertheless came under FBI scrutiny.

I caught the tail end of this story this morning on a Fox news affiliate and thought that I was dreaming. A google search turned up a mention of this story on Axis of Logic website. I don’t know how credible Axis of Logic is, but they in turn, cite CBS News.

http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_7686.shtml

"CBS News revealed yesterday that the young man had been on the FBI’s books for at least two years. In 2002, he was interviewed as part of the investigations in the September 11 terror attacks, over the fact his computer password had been used by alleged al-Qaeda terrorist Zaccarias Moussaoui. According to Berg’s family, the FBI was reportedly satisfied the password was obtained during a brief encounter on a bus, when Nick Berg had allowed Moussaoui to use his computer."

The article contains a pretty good summary of the Berg video skepticism position.

Given the Bush administration's position that accused terrorists, including American citizens, may be targeted for killing -- see

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1598447

-- a possible motive for a fake Berg video arises.

"over the fact his computer password had been used" what this means.
are they meaning that moussaoui used berg's email account? what good would someone's "computer password" do anyone? you could only access that local computer with that computer's password.

something and it got out of hand...

password to email to local computer or to the main frame at the collage campus.

According to AOL news service:

"Meanwhile, the family said Berg had been questioned by the FBI more than a year ago about a contact he had with a terrorism suspect in 1999, while he was a student at the University of Oklahoma in Norman.

"A senior law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity said the terror suspect appears to have been acquainted with Zacarias Moussaoui, an al-Qaida adherent now in federal custody and awaiting trial on conspiracy charges stemming from the Sept. 11 attacks.

"The official said an e-mail address traced to Berg had been used by the unidentified individual with purported terror connections, but a 2002 investigation showed Berg had never met the individual and had not given the e-mail address to that person.

"Michael Berg told reporters Thursday that his son was cleared of any wrongdoing. He said Nicholas Berg met the suspect while riding the bus to classes, and had allowed the suspect to use his computer.

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20040514035509990001

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/US/Northeast/05/13/berg.encounter/
<snip>
According to Berg, his son was taking a course a few years ago at a remote campus of the University of Oklahoma near an airport. He described how on one particular day, his son met "some terrorist people -- who no one knew were terrorists at the time."

At one point during the bus ride, Berg said, the man sitting next to his son asked if he could use Nick's laptop computer.

"It turned out this guy was a terrorist and that he, you know, used my son's e-mail, amongst many other people's e-mail who he did the same thing to," Berg said.

Government sources said Berg gave the man his password, which was later used by Moussaoui, the sources said.

The sources said the man who used Berg's e-mail knew Moussaoui, now awaiting trial on federal charges that could bring a death sentence. But the sources would not disclose details of how the men were connected.

<snip>

They can't claim that he was Al Queda and that Al Queda killed him.

Did this guy work on communications towers? Was he in a position to listen in? Listen in from the prison? Wonder if he had anything to do with leaking it to the world?

:eyes:

Can you believe this garbage?!! This administration can't even get its lies straight because they're in so much of a panic right now.

I think that everything is spinning out of control for this administration. Luckily the old adage of what goes around come around is at work again.

eom

that it was the CIA saying that the FBI questioned him. Why would the CIA be reporting what the FBI is doing??? The news may have just got it wrong but that IS what they said and, for the most part, we have reputable news here.

just who detained Berg for 13-days?
no one will fess up
wonder why

every correction to the previous correction about who had Berg in custody, etc, makes one question this even more.

eom

"Nicholas Berg died for the sins of George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld,"


http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/8661776.htm?1c

PHILADELPHIA - (KRT) - The day he buried his son, Nick Berg's father angrily lashed out at President Bush - and said he had a question for him:

"I would like to ask him if it's true that al-Qaeda offered to trade my son's life for another person," Michael Berg told a small group of reporters early Thursday morning outside his West Chester home.

"And if that is true, well, I need that information," said Berg, a self-proclaimed peace activist who has marched against the Iraq war. "I think that the people of the United States of America need to know what the fate of their sons and daughters might be in the hands of the Bush administration."

"Nicholas Berg died for the sins of George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld," he said, shortly after posting a "War is not the Answer" sign on his front lawn. "The al-Qaeda people are probably just as bad as they are, but this administration did this."

I don't think that's been reported by anybody. What has been reported is that Berg let somebody use his computer and that his password then found its way to Moussaoui.

I could be wrong, but show us a credible source that reports Berg met Moussaoui.

Berg met a terrorist suspect who had contact with Moussaoui. I was thinking about the Fox report this morning, which mistakenly suggested a direct Berg/Moussaoui connection.

I read on a thread somewhere that Berg said he'd loaned his laptop to Moussaoui while on a bus. Can't find where I read that now, though. May have been something the father said to questions from reporters re the FBI's interest in him (?).

See, also, from this DU thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1595230

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/local/8654371.htm?1c
(snip)

The source said it's unclear exactly why Berg spent close to two weeks in jail. Although he insisted that Berg was under Iraqi control, the FBI also questioned Berg three times and visited his parents back in West Chester.

"He'd made some contact with Arab kids at the University of Oklahoma - that's what the FBI was checking into...a guy from Oklahoma," the source said. He said the FBI wanted to know if the Oklahoma connection was "why he came over here."
He said the Oklahoma contact was "related to somebody who was involved in 9/11." But he didn't know if that person was jailed al Qaeda supporter Zacarias Moussaoui, who attended the University of Oklahoma close to when Berg was there in 2000.

Hollinger said he knew Berg had attended the University of Oklahoma and made friends with some Arabs or Muslims. He made friends with people from every culture and religion. "He told me there was some type of identity mixup - either with ID or e-mails, something along those lines," Hollinger said. "He said he was contacted by some prominent officials."

computer ... I have found no "primary source" link that connects Berg to Moussaoui directly -- only through some 3rd party ... same line is confirmed in another story quoting Berg's father ...

Nonetheless, it's all very creepy ... BUT we gotta make an effort to keep "the stories" straight, without them becoming circular reporting.

and asking to use their e-mail address for quick correspondence (in fact that would pop up automatically when you sent the e-mail, wouldn't it?)was something Mousoui (sp?) and the rest of the gang did a lot. Thus, they said there were far more than just Berg's e-mail address traced to the terrorist. But, hell, it's a lovely way to smear Berg because of his dad's remarks's isn't it. Let's see, first the repukes try the line with the prisoner abuse that "we were no where as bad as Saddam so why are they bitching". Then they try to razzle dazzle us with the beheading so we can say "seeee....all those goddamn ragheads deserve death and our little abusers should be given a medal for what they did". Then bingo the kid's dad speaks out and now it's time to tell da' sheep: "please disregard the former propaganda 'cause the kid's a goddamn terrorist and deserves to be beheaded". Hitler has got to be sitting in hell and wondering why he didn't have such a good and effective propaganda machine as the holier than thous, US of A!!! Ohhh, just want to add here. This morning (died laughing) Imus wondered why Tenent hadn't been fired yet for all the intelligence screw ups in the past and said that some are thinking (in reference to the detainee who had women't underpants on his head)that Tenent must have photos of Bush with panties on his head!!! (ain't it the truth, Imus)!!!!!!!!

1.) Why was Berg running around Iraq alone without formal contracts?

2.) Why did the military pick him up and then go out of their way to lie about it?

3.) Did or did not the US authorities offer him "safe passage home" when they finally released him?

4.) What was the deal offered to the US re his release?

5.) What are the connections, if any, between Berg and al Qaeda?

If not, was he ever really released?

Somewhere, an email server has the answer to that question.

In any case, even if it can be proved that some evil black-op subversives from "our side" were the culprits, the standard kabal disclaimer applies: "They were acting on their own."

According to the Bergs account,

"Immediately upon his release he emailed the family and proceeded south to Baghdad where he was staying at the Al Fanar Hotel.

On April 9 he called us and said that he was seeking a safe route out of the country either through Jordan, or possibly Turkey."

His last contact was by phone on April 9.

Here is message from Berg parents . . .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1580306

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/Tower-pro/message/19321

Dear Friends and Customers of Nick Berg and Prometheus Towers,

I am enclosing the following news release which my wife and I are about to release to the media for you. If anyone out there in the broadcast industry can do anything to help us spread the word about our son's disappearance especially to the Mid East, we would be very appreciative:

On March 14 our son, Nick Berg, left for Iraq to inspect some radio towers that had been damaged during last year's war. His goal was to secure some contract work for his business, Prometheus Methods Tower Service. He planned to return on March 30 through Amman, Jordan.

On March 24, Nick was picked up by the Iraqi police in Mosul and held for questioning for no apparent reason. He was subsequently detained by the U.S. military and interrogated by the FBI until his release on April 6. No reason was ever given for holding him for these 13 days. Immediately upon his release he emailed the family and proceeded south to Baghdad where he was staying at the Al Fanar Hotel.

On April 9 he called us and said that he was seeking a safe route out of the country either through Jordan, or possibly Turkey. Most of the major routes were closed due to military action around Fallujah. Since that time we have had no contact with our son. No one we know in Iraq has seen or spoken to him, and we know that he has not accessed his email. We are extremely worried about his safety. We are asking anyone who has seen Nick or knows anything about his whereabouts to come forward and give us this information so that he can be safely brought home.

We extend our sympathies to all of the many families who are in the same situation.

Suzanne and Michael Berg

and SAIC imo because DYN CORP has the contract for Iraq police and corrections (like in Bosnia) and SAIC has 7 DoD contracts for broadcast media in Iraq (radio towers). Like GWEN and ELF?

You can click on mercenaries and what contracts the Rumsfeld/Myers DoD has awarded for work in Iraq usually are updated.
http://www.publicintegrity.org/wow/resources.aspx?act=total

Mercenaries are big political contributors.
http://www.publicintegrity.org/wow/resources.aspx?act=contrib

NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.

I've continued to wonder about the time he spent on tower in Abu Ghraib and the photos he took where "allowed" as previously reported.

Just who was doing the allowing?

Berg was in possession of some sensitive information, do you?

"A US official said Berg was detained by Iraqi authorities 'for his own protection' because his behaviour in Mosul seemed unusual for a westerner.

"He had been seen travelling in taxis and moving about the dangerous city without any escort, the official said. He added that Berg, who was Jewish, had written materials which were 'anti-Semitic' in tone, the official said without elaborating."

http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2004_05_01_xymphora_archive.html#108446916993253628


I saw it stated somewhere yesterday that Berg had a copy of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion." :wtf:

The further it goes, the less sense this story makes.