Has Kerry demanded the pictures be released yet?

I would hate for this investigation to turn out like Kerry's investigation of Iran Contra and BCCI.

Demand something?

He better

We shall see

I'd love to see!

How many issues, scandals, lies, distortions, smears have we seen by the Repug pigs that the Democrats have not even so much as blinked an eye at?

The Democrats allow the republicans to set the pace and use only the issues they choose.

And the Republican owned corporate media whores for them on demand!

No

If the Pentagon won't release the photographs and videos to the public, they MUST show 100% of ALL the evidence to our entire elected, Constitutional government. This includes the President, the Congress, the Supreme Court, and the 50 US States - the Governors, the Legislatures, and their Supreme Courts.

This is important for all Americans. We need to do our patriotic duty now more than ever. True Patriots defend the Constitution against enemies both foreign and domestic. Waving a flag doesn't cut it.

Kerry views prisoner abuse photos

Trip was unscheduled stop for Democratic candidateThe Associated Press
Updated: 10:52 a.m. ET May 14, 2004

WASHINGTON - Presumptive Democratic nominee John Kerry viewed photographs depicting abuse of Iraqi prisoners in U.S. custody after making an unexpected visit to the Capitol to gain a full understanding of the allegations, an aide said Friday.

Kerry made a last-minute decision to travel to the Senate Thursday night and then spent 45 minutes viewing the photographs in a secure location, spokesman David Wade said.

Lawmakers who saw the photographs earlier in the day reacted with revulsion. Wade said Kerry had no comment.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4979070/

If we can't have them released to the public, at the very LEAST we must have the photos catalogued, described in detail, and witnessed by the Supreme Court, the House of Representatives, and the state Governors. That's a bare minimum. We must demand this.

The Demo party should be screaming about all the secrecy within the Shadow Government!

And then Kerry should join in the chorus..

That's right. He shouldn't speak out on any major issue that concerns Americans and that the Bush government doesn't want him to discuss.

Let's hope he can steer the political discussion and debate away from minor-issues like the occupation of Iraq, the Patriot Act, the abuse of Iraqi prisoners, etc.,

Unfortunately, I feel that is exactly what Bush would like to see.

Well, I understand where John is coming from. It's hard to oppose a war when you support it.

Please tell us all how Kerry had anything to do with BCCI being sidelined?

Obviously I don't know anything about BCCI except for what I've read. I wouldn't think Kerry would sideline his own investigation, would he?

say that you WOULDN'T want this investigation to turn out the same way?

:kick:

Do you think that a full accounting was done in BCCI and Iran Contra and that those responsible were punished?

So was Morgenthau's. Lawrence Walsh did what he could. There were indictments, some were convicted, some jailed and more than a few were pardoned.

Because of Kerry's role, though we know more about the BFEE today than we ever would have learned without those investigations.

That's why I find it odd that ANY Democrat would be derisive towards Kerry in any way in regard to BCCI and IranContra. No other lawmaker in modern history exposed more government corruption than John Kerry.

If you're right I'll have no problem voting for Kerry. Obviously I'm not going to be voting for Bush.

knows I am right.

Not one person, even Kerry's most ardent detractors here, have been able to name one other lawmaker who exposed more government corruption than Kerry.

I just always find it interesting when people join and begin bashing the democratic nominee almost immediately.

For your info, the BCCI investigation was sidelined for a number of reasons. 1) it was so deep Clinton thought it would cause the world markets to crash. 2.) Kerry was a relatively young senator and it turned out that his investigations led to Clark Clifford's bank ( later, it was determined that Clifford could not have known the nature of the transactions so he was in essence cleared) however, this led to Kerry getting pressured from his own ranks including Jimmy Carter and Jackie Onassis. 3) Regarding Iran Contra..again Clinton decided the country needed to come together and much of the investigation was upended by Poppy Bush's last minute pardons of key players such as Caspar Weinberger.

Any questions?

I wouldn't know where to begin. I wish some knowledgeable people would start posting info about the scandals under Bush I, because they certainly relate to what's going on today.

Hell NO he hasn't demanded that, and he SHOULDN'T.

HE should have the decency to stay above the fray -- which he obviously DOES.

:crazy:

"HE should have the decency to stay above the fray". Above or detached? Other top Democrats have demanded the release of the photos.

an Alert that seems to imply Kerry isn't competent...

I'll just say that and move on to a more interesting discussion...

And others don't....

There are plenty of interesting discussions. And a few roach motels!

Kerry is obviously highly intelligent and will be a billion times better than Bush, no argument there. I'm just curious how far he will go to expose these chronic problems

has the whole iraq invasion issue come to hinge on photos and videos in the past 7-10 days?

1. pictures of caskets hit newspapers (or web?)
2. pictures from iraqi prison hit the web
3. video of nick berg hit the web
4. MORE photos of iraqi prisons rise to the top

:tinfoilhat:
why all of a sudden does everything go to images?
are there u.s. forces at work creating/releasing all these images?
didn't the pentagon take filmmakers with them to iraq?
didn't rove go to hollywood for meetings soon after sep 11th?

wtf, du?

eom

smear him. They'll say release of the photos will endanger American lives because of more retribution. He's putting our troops in danger. He's sullying the integrity of our troops by focusing on a few bad apples. All that shit. I doubt Kerry's advisors will allow him to be lured into such a Republican trap. The political firestorm surrounding the photos are already damaging Bush w/o Kerry's input-- why risk anything when you can just let the scandal play itself out?

Hi Big Bill...:)

I agree with you though...the repukes would just twist it against him w/ their smear machine..

But, I'll say Bush Co is doing a great job all on their own...was happy to see today's poll results..

as a bad political manuver by the Kerry camp, but the fact remains that if Kerry wins, our troops will stay, and now it will be his mess. I'm sure he's happy about the mess from a campaign standpoint, but he's gotta know if it goes too far out of control, no one will be able to salvage it, and he'll be the next political casualty of this war.

But he was on Faux and had strong words on the torture.

Kerry views Iraq abuse images, blames Bush
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N13695607.htm

WASHINGTON, May 13 (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry saw for himself on Thursday the images of violence and sexual humiliation at a U.S.-run prison in Iraq, and blamed "grievous" errors by the Bush administration and lax oversight up and down the chain of command for the scandal.
With that, his most stinging assessment yet of the Republican administration, Kerry made clear he would not back down in the face of charges by President George W. Bush's campaign that he was politicizing the war and prison abuses.
After wrapping up a day of campaigning in Arkansas against Bush's health care policies, the Massachusetts senator returned to Washington, where he viewed images made available to lawmakers showing Iraqi inmates being subjected to sadistic torture, sexual humiliation, and worse.
"This administration has made a grievous error in the laxity of command control," Kerry told the Fox News Channel in an interview. "And I am convinced this didn't happen just because six or seven people decided to make it happen in a prison. It happened as a matter of what was going on in terms of interrogation and the laxity of command up and down."

that was one of the very first anti-Kerry rumors I heard, long ago, along with Skull and Bones and the thrown medals.

is criminal. Its illegal for the government to do it, and immoral for a news organization.

Kerry knows the US MUST BUILD THOSE 14 PERMANENT BASES in Iraq and man them for the next 100 years. How it gets done doesn't matter as much as whether it can be pulled off. Bushcheney is failing, Kerry will win. Simple as that. The rest is just show biz.

Sorry for the cynicism :evilfrown: