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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 10:25 PM
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Vets for Peace Conference: Will Pitt, Rachel Corrie's parents, real heros
What a fantastic last 2 days!

First off let me say that Will Pitt is the nicest person you could ever hope to meet and I'm so happy I did. William Pitt, you are on the short list of people I would stand besides through thick and thin! What a beautiful human being with a complex and fascinating mind! Sorry for keeping you up so late talking about politics and theology!
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Veterans for Peace held their in San Francisco Friday and Saturday.

and OMG, am I glad I went! I was asked to go as a Kucinich Campaigner to answer any questions people might have. As exhausted as I was, I agreed because Dennis Kucinich had re-arranged his schedule, at their insistence, to come have breakfast with them and because Will Pitt was a guest speaker for Friday's banquet.

Will's talk (Ref 1) was TERRIFIC and enthusiastically received because he told it like it is. He got a standing ovation with tons of whooping and hollering in the middle of his speech. They LOVED him. Nothing Will talked about was over their heads. PNAC? We should be asking these guys to fill us in! DLC? They've been working to expose them run them out of town for years! C-Span and a local channel filmed it so hopefully they'll play it one day!

After the musical entertainment we partied with them in room 762 aka the Hospitality Suite so lots of talking, :toast:, talking, :beer:. But damn, damn, damn! Don't know what caused our delay in going to the room (probably a fan wanting to shake Will's hand or wanting a book signed) because by the time we got to the room we were greeted with the crushing news that Dennis Kucinich had just been there talking to everyone! I was crushed that we'd missed him :(.

These guys were so great that I signed up Friday and am now a Vet for Peace ;) Yippee!

The next morning Dennis gave a talk at 7:30 AM and took about 15 of questions covering from Israel/Palestine to the Department of Peace. Most were pretty hard hitting questions but all sincere and with a complimentary tone.

Rachel Corrie's parents were there for the duration and I was honored to meet them and tell them what Rachel's sacrifice meant to me and many other Americans. The next morning, they received an official award from the Vets and a decoration making Rachel an honorary Veteran for Peace (see Ref 2). They spoke about Rachel's sacrifice and read some of the letters she had sent home before being crushed to death by that bull-dozer and also implored people to write to our reps demanding they support House Concurrent Resolution HC111.IH which calls for an investigation into Rachel's death. Father Berrigan's daughter was also there to recieve an award for his outstanding work and the honorary membership. Veteran for Peace activists who helped shut down the operations at Vieques were also honored; it was touching to see old WWII vets hobbling across the staged and imagining them shouting down the US Navy... The Head of the California Green Party spoke as did Medea Benjamin (Green Party) and Clarence Thomas (ILWU) who shared a nice little tidbit about Homeland Security having been behind the violence at the Oakland Rally where the striking dock workers and protesters were shot with rubber bullets because they were refusing to load/unload war cargo (see Ref 3)

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Ref 1
William Pitt's Speech to the Veterans for Peace

I must begin by saying that standing here before you is, simply, one of the greatest honors of my life. I have never served in the armed forces in any capacity. My father, however, did. He volunteered for service in Vietnam in 1969. The changes that war wrought upon him have affected, for both good and ill, every single day of my life. Vietnam did not only affect the generation that served there. It affected the children of those who served there, and the families of those who served there. That war is an American heirloom, great and terrible simultaneously, handed down from father to son and from mother to daughter, from father to daughter and from mother to son. The lessons learned there speak to us today, almost thirty years hence.

Let me tell you a quick story about my father. His call to the freedom bird came while he was still out in the field. He arrived at Dulles Airport to meet my mother still dressed in his bush greens, still wearing the moustache, with the mud of Vietnam still under his fingernails and stuck inside the waffle of his boot sole. A few days earlier, he had come across a beautiful old French rifle with a mahogany stock, this polished steel trigger guard and a huge needle-type bayonet.

It was given to him by a Vietnamese friend, a former teacher with three children who had been conscripted permanently into the military. My father managed to bring this rifle home with him, and sent it on the flight in the baggage hold along with his duffel.

My father and my mother stood waiting at the baggage claim for his things to come down. The people there – and this was 1970, remember – backed away from him as if he was radioactive. They knew where he had just come from. If the greens were not a giveaway, the standard issue muddy tan he and all the vets wore upon return from Vietnam was. When the rifle came down the belt, not in a package or a box, just laying there in all its reality, the crowd was appalled and horrified. My mother and father looked at each other and wondered what these people were thinking. What did they think was happening over there? What did they think it is that soldiers do? Did they even begin to understand this war, and what it meant, what it was doing to American soldiers, the Vietnamese soldiers like my father’s friend, and the civilians caught in the crossfire?

The looks on those people’s faces there said enough. The answer was no. They didn’t know, and apparently didn’t want to know. Now, thirty three years later, we are back in that same place again, fighting a war few understand that is affecting soldiers and civilians in ways only those soldiers and civilians can truly know. Ignorance, it seems, is also an American heirloom to be passed down again and again and again.

Many of you know, far better than I do, what my father felt that day in Dulles. That is why I am honored to speak to you tonight. If the American people fully knew what this war in Iraq was really about, if they fully knew what it means today to be a soldier in that part of the world, they would tear the White House apart brick by brick. If the people had but a taste of the horror and the lies, they would repudiate this administration and all it stands for. The don’t know, because they have been fed a glutton’s diet of misinformation and fraud. Changing that is why we are here.

The first of August saw a very interesting article published in the Washington Post. The title was, “US Shifts Rhetoric On its Goals in Iraq.”

The story quotes an unnamed administration source – I will bet you all the money in my wallet that this “source” was a man named Richard Perle – who outlined the newest reasons for our war over there. "That goal is to see the spread of our values,” said this aide, “and to understand that our values and our security are inextricably linked."

Our values. That’s an interesting concept coming from a member of this administration. We make much of the greatness and high moral standing of the United States of America, and there is much to be proud of. The advertising, however, has lately failed completely to match up with the product.

Is it part of our value system to remain on a permanent war footing since World War II, shunting money desperately needed for human services and education into a military machine whose very size and expense demands the fighting of wars to justify its existence?

Is it part of our value system to lie to the American people, to lie deeply and broadly and with no shame at all, about why we fight in Iraq? Is it part of our value system to sacrifice nearly three hundred American soldiers on the altar of those lies, to sacrifice thousands and thousands and thousands of innocent civilians in Iraq on the altar of those lies?

Is it part of our value system to use the horror of September 11 to terrify the American people into an unnecessary war, into the ruination of their civil rights, into the annihilation of the Constitution? Is it part of our value system to use that terrible day against those American people who felt most personally the awful blow of that attack?

Is striking first part of our value system?

Is living in fear part of our value system?

It is not part of my value system. It never will be.

This new justification for our war in Iraq is yet another lie, an accent in a symphony of lies.

The values this administration represents play no part in the common morality of the American people, play no part in the legal and constitutional system we adore and defend. One of the worst things ever to happen to this country was allowing the people within this administration to use words like “freedom” and “justice” and “democracy” and “patriotism,” for those good and noble words become the foulest of lies when passing their lips.

For the record, the justification for war on Iraq was:

The procurement by Iraq of uranium from Niger for use in a nuclear weapons program, plus 26,000 liters of anthrax, 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin, 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agents (500 tons, for those without calculators, is one million pounds), almost 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical agents, several mobile biological weapons labs, and connections between the Iraqi regime and al Qaeda that led directly to the attacks of September 11.

None of these weapons have been found. The mobile weapons labs – termed “Winnebagoes of Death” by Colin Powell – turned out to be weather balloon platforms sold to Iraq by the British in the 1980s. The infamous Iraq-al Qaeda connection has been shot to pieces by the recently released September 11 report. And the Niger uranium claim was based upon forgeries so laughable that America stands embarrassed and ashamed before the judgment of the world. This is all featured on the White House’s website on a page called ‘Disarming Saddam.’ The Niger claims, specifically, have yet to be removed.

Lies. Lies. All lies.

That Washington Post story, however, reveals a deeper truth here. Now that the original and terrifying claims to justify this war have been proven to be utterly and completely phony – Niger recently asked for an apology, by the way – the administration is falling back upon the justification for war that these men have been formulating for years and years and years.

They call it Pax Americana, a plan to invade Iraq, take it over, create a permanent military presence there, and use the oil revenues to fund further wars against virtually every nation in that region. This we call bringing our “values” over there. Norman Podhoretz, one of the ideological fathers of this group of neoconservatives who now control the foreign policy of this nation, described the process as “The reformation and modernization of Islam.” That’s a pretty fancy phrase. I am a Catholic, and can therefore call it by its simpler name: Crusade. We know all about those.

This is the Project for a New American Century, the product of a right-wing think tank that, in 1997, was considered so far out there that no one ever thought its members would ever come within ten miles of setting American policy. One broken election, however, vaulted these men into positions of unspeakable power. Their white papers, their dreams of empire at the point of the sword, have become our national nightmare, and the nightmare of the world. I speak of Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, John Bolton, Lewis Libby, and the rest of these New American Century men who have taken our beloved country and all it stands for it and thrown it down into the mud.

You will note that I did not name George W. Bush, for blaming Bush for the gross misadministration of this government is like blaming Mickey Mouse when Disney screws up. He is not in charge. Truman said “The buck stops here,” and so we point to him as a symbol of all that has gone wrong. But he is not in charge. These other men, these New American Century men, have delivered us to this wretched estate. And by God in Heaven, there will be a reckoning for it.

But is it all ideology for these men? Of course not. There is the payout. Have you ever heard of a company called United Defense, out of Arlington, Virginia. Let me introduce you. United Defense provides Combat Vehicle Systems, Fire Support, Combat Support Vehicle Systems, Weapons Delivery Systems, Amphibious Assault Vehicles, and Combat Support Services. Some of United Defense's current programs include:

The Bradley Family of Fighting Vehicles, the M113 Family of fighting Vehicles, the M88A2 Recovery Vehicle, the Grizzly, the M9 ACE, the Composite Armored Vehicle, the M6 Linebacker, the M4 Command and Control Vehicle, the Battle Command Vehicle, the Paladin, the Future Scout and Cavalry System, the Crusader, Electric Gun Technology/Pulse Power, Advanced Simulations and Training Systems, and Fleet Management. This list goes on and on, and includes virtually everything an eternal war might need.

Who owns United Defense? Why, the Carlyle Group, which bought United Defense in October of 1997. For those not in the know, the Carlyle Group is a private global investment firm. Carlyle is the eleventh largest defense contractor in the US because of its ownership of companies making tanks, aircraft wings and other equipment. Carlyle has ownership stakes in 164 companies which generated $16 billion in revenues in the year 2000 alone. The Carlyle Group does not provide investment or other services to the general public.

Who works for the Carlyle Group? George Herbert Walker Bush works for the Carlyle Group, has been a senior consultant for Carlyle for some years now, and sits on the Board of Directors. This company is profiting wildly from this war in Iraq, a tidy gift from father to son.

And then, of course, there is Dick Cheney’s Halliburton, profiting in the millions from the oil in Iraq. Halliburton subsidiary, Brown & Root, is also in Iraq. Their stock in trade is the building of permanent military bases. Here is your permanent military presence in Iraq, and all for an incredible fee. Cheney still draws a one million dollar annual check from Halliburton, what they call a ‘deferred retirement benefit.’ In Boston, we call that a paycheck.

Pax Americana. That which President Kennedy spoke so eloquently and specifically against is now the rule of law for this nation. It must be stopped, and we must be the ones to stop it.

This is America. At bottom, America is a dream, an idea. You can take away all our roads, our crops, our people, our cities, our armies – you can take all of that away, and the idea will still be there as pure and great as anything conceived by the human mind. I do very much believe that the idea that is America stands as the last, best hope for this world. When used properly, it can work wonders.

That idea, that dream, is in mortal peril. You can still have all our roads, our crops, our people, our cities, our armies – you can have all of that, but if you murder the idea that is America, you have murdered America itself in a way that ten thousand September 11ths could never do. The men and women within this current administration are murdering the idea that is America with their Patriot Acts, their destruction of civil liberties, their lies, their daily undermining of even the most basic tenets of decency and freedom and justice that we have tried to live up to for 227 years.

That, and that alone, should be enough to get you on your feet with your fist in the air, whether or not you believe we have any chance of stopping all this. We may not win, but we damned well have to fight them. If we don’t, we are traitors.

When you stare into the obsidian darkness of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington DC, it stares back at you. The stone of the monument is jet black, but polished so that you must face your own reflected eyes should you dare to read the names inscribed there. You are not alone in that place.

You stand shoulder to shoulder with the dead, and when those names shine out around and above and below the person you see in that stone, you become their graveyard. Your responsibility to those names, simply, is to remember.

Remember what that dream, that idea that is America, is supposed to be. Never forget it. Never let your children forget. Hand it down, generation after generation, because it is the most valuable heirloom we all possess. If we lose it, we have lost everything.

When all else fails, I fall back on the words of the extraordinary anti-war activist, Daniel Berrigan. A friend of Berrigan’s, Mitchell Snyder, was for years an advocate and activist for the homeless in Washington DC. Snyder became despondent over the fact that his government could spend billions on bombs and planes and guns, but could not seem to find the money to help the homeless. Snyder became so despondent that he committed suicide. Daniel Berrigan penned these lines in memory of Snyder, and it is in these lines that I find my hope and strength when the darkness creeps too close.

Some stood up once, and sat down
Some walked a mile, and walked away
Some stood up twice, then sat down, "I've had it" they said,
Some walked two miles, then walked away. "It's too much," they cried.
Some stood and stood and stood
They were taken for fools
They were taken for being taken in
Some walked and walked and walked
They walked the earth,
They walked the waters,
They walked the air
"Why do you stand," they were asked, "and why do you walk?"
"Because of the children," they said,
"And because of the heart,
"And because of the bread,"
"Because the cause is the heart's beat,
And the children born
And the risen bread."

The cause is the heart’s beat. This cause is my heart’s beat. It is yours. May it be there for all time, until that day comes when we can, once again, stand in awe and pride before our flag and our government and our nation, when we can once again revel in the rescued dream that is America.

Until then we are at the barricades, and on the streets, and in the faces of all those who would spend the precious blood of our men and women on lies and profit and greed. The obsidian darkness of that memorial demands this of us. The golden ideals of this nation demands this of us. The laws of our forefathers demands this of us. Most importantly, we demand this of ourselves.

They can take nothing from us that we are not willing to give, and we are not willing to give this great nation up. Let them be warned. We stand our ground.

Thank you.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=135091&mesg_id=135091



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Ref 2
Resolutions:

PHILLIP BERRIGAN HONORARY MEMBERSHIP
RACHEL CORRIE HONORARY MEMBERSHIP
VFP Salutes Representative Barbara Lee For Courage
BRING THEM HOME NOW!
WORKING TO BRING ABOUT UNITED NATIONS CONTROL OVER SECURITY AND RECONSTRUCTION IN IRAQ
END THE OCCUPATION OF IRAQ
Money for human needs, not war
Repeal the Patriot Act
DEFENSE OF LIBERTY
SUPPORT FOR ENTERTAINERS UNDER ATTACK FOR SPEAKING OUT
VETERANS & LABOR
KOREA PEACE CAMPAIGN
SAY NO TO COKE – Stop Murders of Union Workers at Coca Cola plants in Colombia
CONTINUE SUPPORT TO CLOSE SCHOOL OF THE AMERICAS/WHISC
EL SALVADOR ELECTIONS
PALESTINE-ISRAEL PEACE
VIETNAM
VIEQUES
PRESERVING SPACE FOR PEACEFUL USE
NUCLEAR DE-ESCALATION
NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT
OPPOSE MINI-NUKES
REFRAINING FROM UNILATERAL ACTION
MILITARY SPENDING AND LEGITIMATE DEFENSE
ENDORSEMENT OF "Campaign for a New Foreign Policy"
DEMAND FULL RELEASE OF GEORGE W. BUSH MILITARY SERVICE RECORD
REQUEST FOR INVESTIGATION (WMDs)
REMOVE JROTC AND MILITARY RECRUITERS FROM OUR SCHOOLS
DEPARTMENT OF PEACE
SUPPORT UNITED NATIONS
DEPLETED URANIUM
DU TESTING PROGRAM
VETERANS READJUSTMENT
VETERANS HEALTHCARE
MILITARY SERVICE AND RETIREMENT
VOICES IN THE WILDERNESS
ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES
USE OF THE INTERNET
The Earth Charter

Ref 3
National security was the excuse for government spying on former ILWU
President Harry Bridges, the target of an unsuccessful redbaiting campaign to deport him. Today, spying on Oakland longshore officials whose union has been outspoken against the war and occupation in Iraq is no less reprehensible.

Yet, when it comes to probing the awarding of billions of dollars in
reconstruction contracts in Iraq to corporations like Bechtel and
Halliburton, that's taboo. Bush handed Stevedoring Services of America (SSA) a $4.8 million contract to run the port of Umm Qasr. The port of Oakland demonstrators were protesting SSA's war profiteering. Clearly, this was a war for imperial might not civil rights.

The "Blue Ribbon Committee" set up to investigate the latest Oakland police atrocity will have as little effect in curbing "excessive police force" as the Civilian Police Review Board did in curtailing the OPD's racist Riders.
Perhaps, Jerry Brown in his possible run for state attorney general could host a radio program similar to his former KPFA show "We the People", this time renamed "We the Police."

http://lists.iww.org/pipermail/alerts/2003-July/000242.html
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 10:27 PM
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1. Wow!
Sounds like an amazing experience.

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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:00 PM
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3. It really was!
Truly moving. Truly an honor to be around such people.

My heart jumped up when I realized S. Brian Wilson and Stan Goff were there. Stan Goff is a Special Forces MSG who acted honorably in Haiti and later exposed the US government's lies about Aristide and what the US was really doing down there in his book "Hideous Dreams".

Hey, guess what. Next year's convention is going to be held in Boston and was purposefully timed to coincide with the DNC convention. If you can at all, I'd recommend you see if you can make it. I'm definitely going!

It was really worthwhile! I saw in one thread that BearFartinthewoods attended but I didn't know so didn't meet him :( and JackieO was there the second day since he'd been involved in the Peace March that ended just in time for the resolutions and final speeches.

If you want to plan on attending in Boston, let me know. This could be lots of fun!

Youi can see this year's convention brochure here to see if you'd be interested in their the conventions: http://www.veteransforpeace.org/2003conv.htm

I'm really sorry I was torn between my Kucinich obligations and that. Next year I plan to attend the entire thing!

Peace and thanks!

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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 01:00 AM
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15. Correction: It was BeforeAThought
Not BearFartintheWoods.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 10:28 PM
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2. That was very beautiful
Check your box, it has some info you need so you can send me those stickers and stuff. Go Kucinich. Did you bring up my workers memorial idea up? Thank you so much for all that you do, your story about your father, and also I work at Dulles Airport. Let's work hard to elect DK.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:03 PM
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4. Thanks John
I didn't because I didn't get a chance with Dennis or his real staff other than to quickly hand them Will's latest offering re the day he met Dennis.

Do you ever Messenger? We should messenger about that and decide on the best way to send it to him. I only got around to sending in my CV Thursday so I haven't even officially interviewed yet.

If you want to send that in ASAP, we can do that... But let's IM and I'll do it how/when you want :)
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:16 PM
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5. Wow!! Great report!
It's easy to forget how many great human beings we have here in America these days.

What a great report! It was very uplifting! Wish I could have hugged Rachel's parents.

Thanks for sharing! :hi:

Julie
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 12:05 AM
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9. You're always so sweet Julie!
:) It was a pleasure to share that with you! If we ever get our National DU Convention off the ground, it might be nice to have Will Pitt make a speech for us and also to invite some of these guys.

It was really inspirational!
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:39 PM
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6. Room 762
was an incredible place.

I don't have the words yet to describe the last few days. Tinoire, meeting you was one of thed highlights of this whole thing. Thank you.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 12:10 AM
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10. Aw shucks
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 12:12 AM by Tinoire
Now I'm blushing. I felt the same way ;) It was my absolute pleasure to meet you and hang out with you. I hope we have the pleasure again soon.

Thank you for being such a terrific person. You are as brilliant, considerate and as kind as men come. A real cutie too! :)

And I will remember room 762 and the ensuing conversations for a long time! What a glorious assemblage of heroes!
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 12:32 AM
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14. :) And for Room 762...
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 12:53 AM by Tinoire
Well, I am waiting to read the story. I hope you find the words to describe the last few days. I'm going to order "Paradise Lost" and mail it to you for an inscription- making the book and its story all the more valuable to me.


Dore
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:54 PM
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7. WOW, thanks for sharing that speech!
and bringing us along for the ride :toast:

we are very fortunate to have folks like you, will and so many others standing up and speaking out :bounce:

thanks for sharing :loveya:

peace
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 12:13 AM
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11. Both doing it and sharing with you are so much fun!
I :loveya: DU, :loveya: Global Free Press and :loveya: BPilgrim!

I can just imagine you there! You would have fit in perfectly :)
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 12:05 AM
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8. We need some advice and help
Re: the Vets and our message when we go public with the ARMY OF ONE commercial - We need to know which organization would be the best and most willing to man telephones (a 1-800 number is proposed at the end of the commercial) and/or take command of the people we send to them.

We need an organization that will collect the signatures or create the petitions and get the folks we send to them focused and directed towards Letting Congress and the White House know of their NUMBERS -

We really believe that we are going to get a LOT Of people pissed and ready to work on this and make it a major election issue, not only for Congress but all the way to the top.. maybe together we can spawn INVESTIGATIONS and NEW BILLS protecting the troops as well.

As a Vet who's since been disabled I have a vested interest myself in this, but that's not why I'm working in that direction. This issue is a 30 MILLION vote issue.

They want to cheat, beat 30 MILLION VOTES.

Here's the long version of the commercial if you haven't seen it:

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html

Please help us make the right decision on where to send all these good americans who want to help this situation, we're all ears.

ANd thanks for all you do, one and all, together we'll be taking back our media and our country.

Thanks!

symbolman
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 12:18 AM
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12. Wow! What a video!
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 12:19 AM by Tinoire
I will PM you a few e-mail addresses of people who can give you better advice. I can also ask at my next (and first :) "Vets for Peace" chapter meeting.

Hope you're doing well though it certainly seems that you're full of enough piss and vinegar to be the Army of One against *.

Take care and thanks for sharing that video! You should make it its own thread again.

If there's anything I can do, please let me know. I am willing to, wanting to help!

Peace
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 12:27 AM
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13. Oh and Damn- Forgot the best DU part!
Saturday night, we had a DU dinner with Will at a fun, casual restaurant on Geary street in San Francisco (Tommy's Joynt).

Good food, good drink, Will Pitt and terrific conversation with Jack Rabbit, GrandmaBear, HellHathNoFury, Arcane1, Proud Patriot, WillyT and his lovely girlfriend.

That was a perfect ending to a wonderful week-end and evening!

Well, I snuck back to room 762 afterwards ;) to talk to Brian Wilson. You just can't get enough of these men's stories and sit there enthralled; the humility with which they tell these stories i soul-reaching.
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 05:18 AM
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16. Thank you so much
for this great thread. I'm going to kick it up to the front page.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 11:17 PM
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17. i didn't see it on the front page!
:kick:

hopefully you will.

dp
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 10:02 AM
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18. Wish I could edit original post- Here is tect & audio of Will's speech
You can listen to Will's speech here (if you haven't heard it yet)

http://globalfreepress.com/images/wonk/wonk2/VariousMovies4/mp3/WRPitt.VeteransForPeace.mp3

& here is the transcript: http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/081003A.shtml
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:11 AM
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19. kick up- thanks Tinoire!!
:kick:

Peace
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 04:10 AM
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20. Kick for Tinoire
The Maven of Information!
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:10 AM
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21. Awesome.
What a spirit-lifting account!
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 09:04 AM
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22. Dropped in from the ABA Conference in SF...a remarkable time.
Rachael Corrie's parents gave a stirring "acceptance speech" as Rachael was inducted, posthumously, into VFP. They drew largely from her emails during her last weeks in the PA. She was one remarkably brave woman; and they--her parents-- are justifiably proud that she died working passionately for a cause she had totally given herself over to.

I bawled like a baby... and that never happens to me.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 09:17 AM
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23. What a Great Report, Tinoire! So much information it's taken awhile to
read it all. Thanks!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 09:29 AM
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24. What's also interesting is your link showing cooperation between Japanese
Union and the California Union. This looks to me like the start of a world movement for Labor to Unite against unfair corporate and government policies. This is a good thing! And something I wouldn't have known about if you hadn't posted it.

Our DU Socialists will be happy to see this and I (who seem to be more socialist leaning every day) was so encouraged that if we can cooperate with other countries for peaceful solutions to nuclear arms build up and decent living wages for all workers (and that now includes our white collar as well as blue bollar traditional union members) the whole world will have a start to a better way of living for us all. Just as France and Germany were against this Invasion.....we have to look for help in making "living wage" and decent working conditions a focus the world over. The PNAC/Corporatists can't be allowed to continue their disgraceful policies of eventual World Domination, degradation of our Planet's Resources- Envirnoment and destruction of the weakest for the good of the few.

Heres a quote from your reference #3:

Join the ILWU Local 10 Anti-War committee when it looks at the growing costs
of the war in Iraq and the war against working people in the US, Also guests
will include Japan rail union Doro-Chiba executive committee member Mr.=20
Masahiro Kawasaki. Mr.
Kawasaki will speak about the labor struggles in Japan against the Iraq war
and militarization. He will also show a video of the 1 day rail strike
action against the war taken by his union. His union is fighting for justice
for the fired workers of the privatized Japan Rail. These workers were
victimized during privatization by the government and the company for being
in a militant and democratic union.

There will also be reports from Jack Heyman and Clarence Thomas of the ILWU
Local 10 Anti-War Committee, a video on the attack on April 7, 2002 against
the anti-war protesters and Local 10 Longshoremen in Oakland the the ever
increasing attacks on our democratic rights.
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