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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:22 PM
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with only 6 months to go, what's bush got up his sleeve?
besides a flask of booze. he's gotta be feeling desperate right about now, with his numbers in the can, and i really think he thought he had it aced. but now, you can see the fear in his eyes.
and karl rove was bloviating today about staying the course and the presidents top priority is keeping america secure, yeah right.

these people are the mothers of invention when it comes to dirty tricks, covert nastiness, and mudslinging. and much worse.

will he try to retain his stolen position and really go totally nazi in his last 4 years, or, will he fool us all and step down? he really hates to answer uncomfortable questions, and he hates actual hard work, i think he'd like to just go home.

i suspect that this bunch of nazis will try something truly monstrous to keep their death march going on schedule. they have got the whole arab world frothing at the mouth with rage and revenge lust, and 'peace in the middle east' cannot be stopped. i suspect that they will behave like cornered weasels. they are bold, desperate, and they don't have human souls like you and i.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:27 PM
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1. I think a conflict
involving Iran. The bush/cheney campaign headquarters (Fox News) has been increasingly identifying Iran as the "source" of US problems in Iraq. (Someone HAS to be to blame!!!) The capture of Usama Bin Laden would not create the patriotic fever they desire. They will use the fear factor instead. Fear and violence will be the republican foreplay for the November election.
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newscaster Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:29 PM
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2. I hope I am right but
I think the only thing up his sleeve at this point, is his arm.
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Arianrhod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 11:30 AM
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22. I think you're right: "Fear and violence".
Interesting how the "neo"Cons claim that that is the only thing the terrorists understand. . . .
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:30 PM
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3. He doesn't know what is up his sleeve
no one told him yet what it is that is under his sleeve.

and if no one tells him, he actually, does not know what to say about anything.

So, someone has to tell him what is up his sleeve.

He goes about raising obscene amounts of money for his campaign, but still knows not a damn thing about any complicated issue in the
white House.

We will see this quite stupid man, who called himself a "war president" go to Normandy in June--and we will see the photo op of this phoney, this idiot, this AWOL in his own duty, briskly walking through the rows of white crosses with a look of intense concern on him face.

In a gross interpretation and photo op, he may be shown to exhibit some particular interest in one of the names on one of those crosses.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:30 PM
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4. i dont think it matters, everything they try lately turns to chit eom
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:30 PM
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5. Poppy and Babs must be squirming about now, too.
I wonder if they'll be the ones to come up with a "solution" to keep Junior in office.

You know they would just die of shame if their little boy didn't get re-selected.

In the meantime, I just hope they're experiencing lots of angst over the dropping poll numbers.

:evilgrin:
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 11:10 AM
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21. Thinking the same thing - Poppy and Babs
Ah, those charming days of seeing their little darlin' in glory have suddenly turned. You know they are steaming.

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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 11:49 AM
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25. I'll bet Poppy secretly wants the twerp to lose
He was a one termer and knows he's twice the man his pathetic son is. Babs is an entirely different matter.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:31 PM
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6. it's not what's up his sleeve that worries me . . .
it's that finger on the little red button that scares me to death . . .
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:37 PM
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7. I'm a little suspicious . . .
. . . of the Kerry/McCain meme that's growing legs. Where's that coming from? :shrug:

TYY
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:46 PM
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10. You & me both.
I'm also wondering how Kerry came from so far behind so fast and won.
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Arianrhod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 11:33 AM
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23. After Dean collected more grassroots donations
than any Democrat in history. . . .
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:40 PM
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8. I'm hoping he sabotages himself,
like he is so good at, and then you have the fact that once elected he can spend the rest of his life in comfort and never have to prove himself again. I think his laziness just may win. He wants to go back to doing nothing strenuous, for his brain that is.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:41 PM
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9. a tentacle
whatever it is, it's not a human appendage
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:49 PM
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11. There is another possibility.
It may be that he has slowly cut his own political achille's tendons with a Taco bell spork. He may not have the juice of the remaining True Believers to pull off something.

Ask yourself this: Right now, in Washington, do you REALLY think that many people are taking him, Rummy and especially Karl Rove seriously?

Shit, they are sharpening the knives on a razor strop and giggling like striped-assed baboons.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:51 PM
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12. Finally kill Raygun
Kill KILL Kill KILL kill kill KILL KILLkill KILLLLLLkikkkkiiiillllllllKKKKKKKKKiiilLLLLLLLLLLL................
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:52 PM
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13. PRESTO, Osama!
eot
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jrthin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:53 PM
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14. I hope his resignation. n/t
eom
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taquinas101 Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:56 PM
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15. American Bandstand: Here's Karl Rove's Top Ten Hits!!!
1. Following "hand over" of soveriegnty, have another series of mission accomplished celebrations, and ask Congress to pass series of resolutions praising the military (and Bush's leadership). When democrats balk, accuse them of being patriotic.
2. Osama Bin Ladin will be found/killed, and Bush will declare that we are winning the war on terror.
3. Some other terrorist (Al Zawari) will be found/killed, and Bush will declare that we are winning the war on terror.
4. WMDs will be found in Iraq.
5. Bush administration will declare a series of Terrorist alerts near the time of the election, and urge citizens/voters to stay home in during the election.
6. Bush will shamelessly politicize a terrorist attack and defy logic by arguing that he is better qualified to handle terrorism.
7. Bush administration will do its utmost to provoke a terrorist attack with disclosure of prison photos, praising of Rumsfeld, telling terrorists to bring it on, endorsing settlement of West bank, etc., then argue that Kerry's policies constitute dangerous appeasement.
8. Sweet heart deal with Saudi Arabia will kick in, and price of gas will decline.
9. Bush administration will announce economic good news based on numbers that they compile, and declare that its due to their tax cuts.
10. Smear campaign that will make the attacks on the Clintons look tame.
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oudeis Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 08:00 PM
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16. Re: "with only 6 months to go, what's bush got up his sleeve?"
I was just reading Joshua Green's "Playing Dirty" in _The Atlantic_. It's a good read and I urge everyone to read it if they're unfamiliar with campaign propaganda--on either side.

http://www.theatlantic.com/cgi-bin/send.cgi?page=http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2004/06/green.htm

A section got me to asking the same question. The argument in the excerpt (below) is that the groundwork for a Sept/Oct "surprise" is laid in the spring or summer. So, we have the clues now or will have them and need to keep an eye out. After reading the excerpt, what might be the likely points of attack? Rove's strategy is to go for the strongest points, which would be the economy and Kerry's Viet Nam service.

Here's the excerpt:

Contrary to the popular impression that campaigns traffic mainly in sleaze and rumor (though this occurs too), these e-mails are almost always scrupulously sourced from the public record. The goal is not to spread untruths but to have journalists repeat a selective—and often deeply misleading—version of the truth. "We become a conduit," Comstock says. "We do the legwork for the reporter. Obviously, in doing it we tell a story from the Republican side."

Campaigns have become highly sophisticated at using such material to maximum effect. "It's a lot like a trial," Comstock explains. "The candidate gives you what you have to work with. You're piecing things together that tell a larger story." Lehane agrees that the first step is choosing a negative storyline to push and laying the groundwork by talking it up to beat reporters and editors. "The second step," he says, "is to catalogue a variety of stories you have that support this. You begin by planting some smaller stories so that you build a foundation or basis for the larger story you're going to want to have hitting in the fall."

Especially in a presidential election "you have to plant a lot of the seeds in the spring and the summer so that you can capitalize on it," Lehane says. "If you have a big story that's going to hit in the middle of September, middle of October, what you really want to do is build several things that come off of the story so that it's not just a one-day hit. If the story runs on the front page of a major paper, you also want to set it up so that it hits some of the television morning shows, and from there you want to have surrogates out the next day, so that you get a second hit. On the third day, ideally, you have some additional information you've been holding back that you can feed into it another round of stories. On the fourth or fifth day you try to hold your candidate back from saying anything, so that eventually, when he does say something about the issue, you get another round of stories. If you do it effectively, you can basically wipe out a guy's entire week—he'll spend the entire week responding to a story that showed up on a Monday." In the heat of the campaign season each week is critical. Not only can a well-orchestrated hit knock an opponent off stride, it can solidify an impression that the many voters just tuning in to the election will carry into the voting booth."
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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 08:06 PM
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17. Concerned
I am concerned that the day after the story broke about the beheading of Berg that the CIA declared that the man reading the statement in video is Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.....I don't trust anything these people say - I mean they screwed up the WMD thing so bad...but they are CERTAIN this masked and draped man in a very poor quality video is Abu Musab al-Zarqawi? It smells fishy to me.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 08:06 PM
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18. Mo, I think it will involve an aggressive move, like nuking someone.
It may be Iran, as someone else here previously suggested, or it may be a nuke to N. Korea, Syria...or who knows! But I think these guys are DYING to use a "nucular" bomb on someone....ANYONE. That's what really gives these morbid chickenshits a hard-on, more than anything else.

But Iraq is only going to get worse, and I really don't think the American people are appreciating this war as much as they once did.

I've looked at bush's astrological chart, and it really does look like he's going to pull some sort of nasty "surprise" out of his hat prior to the election. And, I also think he's going to try something funny concerning the counting of votes, or the election, again. But, I don't think it will go over well with the masses. And I don't think he'll get a free pass on it.

All we can do is hide & watch! We'll know when we see it.

:kick:
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 10:42 AM
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19. or nuking america, and blaming it on iraq
or some other too monstrous to think of scenario
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 10:48 AM
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20. Another terrorist attack upon American soil. n/t
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 11:48 AM
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24. Their toolbox is rather limited. They've gone quite a way with it though.
Tools:

Smear the opponent. (fake "intern" story, push polls against McCain etc.) So expect some false or distorted rumors to come out as time gets closer to NOV. This is tactics 1-9 for team shrubco.

Cultivate fear. Problem here is I think that many/most have "fear fatigue." There are limits to this, and they may (I hope) have pushed this button too early and often.

Raise and spend a lot of dough. Check.

The thing with shrub/Roveco is, I'm not sure that they've ever known defeat during their lifetimes. If you look at the careers of various presidents, they are typically not a continuous upward trajectory. Lincoln, Nixon etc. knew significant defeats, in politics or business or both. Clinton had lost as well. You can imagine that these helped build character, good or bad.

Bush has only known business "success" handed to him through cronies, and won elections with the Rove/Atwater school of muckthrowing and imperial family fundraising. I'm not sure they can even conceive of behind behind or losing, and changing tactics in any kind of significant way.
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caffefwee Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:17 PM
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26. Osama
A week before the election they'll capture him. I'm sure it's Rove's idea. That or he'll start another war saying that Syria is an imminent threat and we all have to stand by our president in times of war.
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