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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:06 AM
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Your Tax Dollars at Work: The Medicare Card Ads- WHAT A RIP!!
They are using millions our tax dollars to advertise a private sector service for the new drug cards for seniors...

Not only that, you know the Bush ad is coming in a couple of months that takes credit for this...

this ad is just the setup... and paid for by US...!!! :grr:

I am seeing them in the UAE-- you guys must be completely sick of them!
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:13 AM
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1. If it saves seniors money...
I support the ads.
Isn't the whole point of medicare to help people financially? If this gives people an option, they should know about it. I want my parents taken care of.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:21 AM
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2. No it does not save them money
First you have to compare over 70 different plans. At work we have seven choices and it is a huge decision. How seniors are going to figure out which one is best among 70 plans is beyond me.

Second, the companies who are allowed into the plan are chosen by how much they have given to the Republican party. Nice criteria.

Third, every time we privatize anything, it ends up costing more not less. Corporates make out like bandits in privatization on the backs of the middle class.


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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:25 AM
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3. yep, drugs just got more expensive...
for children, for the middle-class, and for the poor...

and eventually for seniors.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:26 AM
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4. this is SICK Bush self-promotion, remember the tax-cut letters?
he used to pull this shite all the time in TX
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 01:34 AM
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7. They won't save any money ...
House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi and others held a press conference on May 3rd -

"New Medicare Prescription Drug Cards a Bad Deal for Seniors"

"Just like the President's drug bill, the big drug and insurance companies control what discounts seniors will get and how much they will pay. Many seniors will not be able to save on their medications when they use these cards."

(snip)

"Right now, seniors can have multiple discount cards, allowing them to maximize their savings for each drug they take. But under the new law, seniors and people with disabilities will only be allowed to sign up for one card a year. Once you pick a card, you cannot change your mind."

(snip)

"Cards are expected to offer discounts, but there is no minimum discount that guarantees savings for seniors. Drug companies have already begun increasing their prices so that they can offer 'discounts' without losing a dime in profits. It is just like the store that marks up its goods right before a sale. In the end, seniors pay more. That's a bad deal for seniors, but a good deal for the drug companies."


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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:51 AM
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5. As a senior, I feel raped everytime I see one of these ads.
Money that should be used to aid those coming to the end of their lives, many unable to go to work again, is going to make some insurance and pharma companies stock market numbers jump up, and the Pukes say that those who live on welfare are lazy. Who are the real welfare queens and kingpins?
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 01:02 AM
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6. Are these cards any different
than the many prescription drug cards widely available to the general public for around $10-15 a month? Aren't the savings about the same?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 01:54 AM
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8. Some of them work like that
But they all are different.

But basically, the plans give discounts on drug company prices. The mail-order plan my mother used was based on a mark-up on cost. Huge difference.
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