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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:14 PM
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USA Pulling out of Iraq, USA Pulling out of Iraq, Its a setup.
Looks like they paving the way for a declare victory and pull out thing.

CNN Wolfie questioning leading council member from Baghdad. "If the Council asks USA to pull out after June 30 would the USA go?" And the guys sez "they(USA) would have no choice."

I kinda thinking this is the way outta the Perfect War for Bush.

Of course the Pubs gonna go nuts as all them bibles gatta come home with the missionarys.

The oil barons gonna go nuts as the their fingers slip from the oily wheel.

The Military guys gonna throw luaus and drink tons of beer.

Its the Perfect Ending for the Shrub, will he bite?
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:19 PM
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1. ...and baby makes three.
First Bremer, then Powell, and now this guy.
"If asked to leave, we will leave. But that is highly unlikely."

Then, when they TELL us to get the hell out it'll be "Well gee, we NEVER thought they'd do that, but a promise is a promise."

It would go down in history as the first promise this administration has kept, except for the one about making the rich richer.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:30 PM
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5. LUv that yellow dog
Giving up all that oil will make the Pull Out very bitter but we seem to have run out of options...?
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:23 PM
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2. Even though I think it's extremely unlikely that they'd do this, even to
save their bacon, we should be prepared just in case.

I think the simplest response is regardless of shrubco's actions with respect to Iraq from this point on, they have clearly demonstrated that they can't be trusted with the reins of government. They involved us in this disastrous venture to start with, and lied to do it. Case closed.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:28 PM
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4. Homefront Pressures would demand it I have to suspect
it would be the Perfect Answer to the problem of End Game. All that blood and treasure to Free Iraq from Saddam to give it to the Mullahs, OMG.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:25 PM
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3. I dont think they can pull out before
Iraqi election, i'm sure they'd to before out election but i dont think it's possible.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:32 PM
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6. In this crazy world, we cannot expect anything sane and reasonable coming
from the White House, they being led by a fractured Brain.
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Point_n_click Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:45 PM
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7. This seems suspicious in another way ...
Remember, Kerry has said we need to stay there to stablize Iraq so that it doesn't become a worse situation. A power vaccuum would be bad right now over there.

Picture this ... Bush has the troops pulled out during the summer, loses the election, then things really get bad over there to the point that Kerry's hand is forced into sending troops back into Iraq. Sure, maybe he would have international support, but the Neocons would be all over something like this.

The possible plan - make a bad situation worse and leave it to the Democrats to have to fix so they can say "See, if we had been allowed to finish the job we wouldn't have this I told you so situation. Now look at how bad the liberals have made things."

It's as if they're accepting the fact that Bush won't be re-selected and instead plan to hand a major disaster to the incoming Democrats to take the blame for. All this with an eye on 2008.

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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:51 PM
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9. The wolverine gambit?
When a wolverine has eaten its fill, it will spray the carcass with its scent so that no other animal will touch it.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 05:34 PM
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10. Yup, you have something there. Dump Bush, save the House and
the Senate.

Go for 08

Who the hell knows but it looks suspicious as water and oil.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 05:50 PM
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12. Even a big honking meltdown in Iraq
wouldn't do squat for Repubs in 2008. I doubt most Americans have ever been truly concerned about the fate of Iraq. Ordinary Joes (and ditto monkeys) readily gave support to the idea of "bringing democracy to Iraq", it sounded like the righteous American thing to do. But now that it's evident that it'll take a shitload of work, blood, and money for even a 50/50 chance at success, it's not so appealing. The current stirrings of mainstream opposition to the war is little more than Arab fatigue, which will grow in time. Iraq could blow into civil war under Kerry's watch, and unless the repercussions are felt in the US in to an appreciable degree, most folks won't care.
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Texican Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:49 PM
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8. They Are Like Tape Worms
They are not going to leave until they get the last soldier killed. Here is what they are up to.

"In a series of edicts issued earlier this spring, Mr. Bremer's Coalition Provisional Authority created new commissions that effectively take away virtually all of the powers once held by several ministries. The CPA also established an important new security-adviser position, which will be in charge of training and organizing Iraq's new army and paramilitary forces, and put in place a pair of watchdog institutions that will serve as checks on individual ministries and allow for continued U.S. oversight. Meanwhile, the CPA reiterated that coalition advisers will remain in virtually all remaining ministries after the handover."





http://online.wsj.com/article_email/0,,SB108439973419309908-IdjeoNplal3mpypZ4KHaaiEm4,00.html
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 05:36 PM
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11. Things can change in a heartbeat.
this is gonna be good to see what plays out.
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