Hannity Gloating Over the Sarin Gas "Find" -

says that Ted Kennedy was wrong when he said his "lies lies and more lies" speech.

See, they DID have WMD's.

I guess all of the Freepers feel better today.

They were right and, of course, we were wrong. How silly of us, of course that little bitty bit of sarin gas was worth the lives of 773 men and tens of thousands of Iraqis.

because Serin is not a WMD.

There's obviously a "delivery" issue involved, but there is for any WMD. Sarin gas is about as deadly as you can get. It's a nerve agent that is colorless, odorless, tasteless and symptoms usually take only sceonds to occur. It kills reletively quickly and painfully.

One shell, however, (when everyone KNEW he had them 15 years ago) - is hardly evidence of anything significant. There were thousands of these shells... so one or two have been uncovered?

to kill 11 out of 5500 people in a Tokyo subway. So should we classify American Troops as WMDs? I mean, we kill that many Iraqis in a day.
Anyway, my point is that the finding of this SARIN gas is going to be blown way out of proportion. Too many reports of this leaving out the fact that it was in a 15 year old shell.

As I said - there are delivery issues. In this case, two component chemicals were not mixed "correctly" for any one of a number of reasons (probably leaning toward the age of the shell).

You could have a 15 year old nuke and it's still a WMD, but if you don't replace the precision detonating mechanism, the aged explosives might make it nothing more than a big "pop". It's still a nuke. Still a "WMD" - just not deployed "effectively". A smallpox weapon would be useless too if it were dispersed in the wrong place.

The agent was not deployed effectively Japan - or there would have been quite a few more deaths. There are issues of formulation, and more importantly distribution and targeting (the gas sinks).

There is no question it is a WMD.

the fact that this warhead went to Gulf War One AT LEAST

acknowledging this on Faux.

that it had only been 'field tested' and those tests are often reversed...

but, what do you expect from a drooling POS like him?

Right, Colin?

one old shell..........gloating over that???????
silly wanker

Hannity better watch out- the claim was based on a field test, which have given us numerous false positives in the past.

If he's not careful, he could be eating crow.

AGAIN.

-MR

could have got OBL eight times during his admin?

It is easier for him to live in his fantasy world than deal with reality.

Quite often the announcer on the lead-in to his radio show will say, "Even though he is wrong, he still believes he is right."

Washington-AP -- Don't jump to any conclusions just yet. That warning comes from Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, after the U-S military in Iraq announced that a roadside bomb containing sarin nerve gas had exploded near a U-S military convoy.
Rumsfeld told a Washington, D-C audience that the "field test" showing the presence of sarin may not be accurate. He says more analysis needs to be done -- and that it may take some time to find out just what the chemical was.

In Baghdad, officials said the bomb was apparently left over from the Saddam era. They said two members of a military bomb squad were treated for "minor exposure" -- but that there were no serious injuries.

One official says the shell apparently contained two chemicals that are designed to combine and create sarin -- but that they didn't mix properly.

http://www.wtkr.com/global/story.asp?s=1873574&ClientType=Printable

one would think that by now he would have learned not to trumpet the "good news" story too loudly - until a day or so later when it is either confirmed or discredited. Given David Kay's response this morning (that this would have been left over from the Iraq v Iran war in the eighties... ) and given that Sarin gas, it has been reported, loses its toxic nature within five years (thus this would be non-lethal) - chances are that this is a nonstory that, like the "mobile weapon labs" that were quickly discredited, the mainstream media will drop the story quickly even when the few rightwing blowhards (including Dick Cheney)continue to repeat it. Sadly the media for a long time has just dropped to discredited stories - rather than making a story around how the claim had been discredited. This allows the blowhards to continue refering to it and selling the faux items to their blind-believing audience.

They will only upset you and you only add to their ratings. Hannity is a fool or otherwise he wouldn't be on fux.

It's one thing to "see what the other side thinks". It's another thing to listen to this asshole.

havent been outsourcing to the Aum Shinrikyo cult (who manufactured some and used it in a home-grown terrorist attack in 1995) ?

Time for some "Atomic Blue Kool Aid" :beer:

Two of our guys had to go in for tests!

I've made deadlier batches of chili.

That WMD ship has sailed.

I don't care what they find(and they aint finding shit) if there isn't a nuke headed our way, it's not going to change support for the war.

Glad the freakolas that still support Bush are having a good day, they are going to need it, because their "good news" days are getting fewer and fewer. Anybody else notice that? Pathetic is all they are. They are already convinced the WMD are there or in Syria, so it doesn't matter to them anyway, do they think they are going to convince anyone else? HAAAAAAAAA

http://www.epa.gov/region8/superfund/sites/rma/rmasarinblt.html

EPA Rocky Mountain Arsenal Home

Sarin Bomblet Links



U.S. Army Arsenal Public Affairs
(very current)

Colorado Department of Public Health and the Environment Sarin Update


EPA Letter to Army about Sarin Bomblets:
Ref: 8EPR-F
November 21, 2000

Mr. Charles Scharmann
Office of the Program Manager
AMXRM-PM, Bldg. 111
Commerce City, Colorado 80022-1748

Dear Mr. Scharmann:

With the recent discovery of several additional bomblets at the Rocky Mountain Arsenal (RMA), the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is concerned about the health and safety of on-site workers, visitors, and nearby residents. While one such bomblet in a non-suspected area could be considered an anomaly; discovery of several more of these bomblets causes us to reconsider as to how much is really known about the disposal and destruction practices for these chemical munitions, and how many more are waiting to be found.

The military is the expert in addressing munitions and is the lead agency when remediating a Federal Facility site such as RMA. Current safety procedures for onsite workers and visitor tours have been based upon an understanding that the Army has always had a ‘healthy respect' for chemical weapons and had carefully managed all aspects of their handling from production through final disposition. However, recent statements made by the Army reflect an escalating concern related to finding additional bomblets. "At no time during this discovery and subsequent evaluation was employee, visitor, or neighborhood safety jeopardized <10/26/00>;" "National and local munitions and explosive experts have advised us that this bomblet is unstable and therefore, unsafe. Prolonging the decision to destroy this bomblet increases the risk to human life and heightens community fears in an already stressful situation <10/27/00>;" and "While discoveries like this bomblet are rare, there is the potential for more devices to be found <11/1/00>."

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Apparently, the US was hiding WMD from itself for many, many years. Somehow, even though all of these weapons were thought to have been destroyed, a few managed to slip through the cracks.

Iraq at one time had a major WMD program, undeniably. They used significant quantities against Iran and the Kurds, undeniably. Most of them were destroyed after Gulf War I, undeniably. However, don't be surprised if a few shells turn up here and there, cause keeping track of every single artillery shell is a bit tough during a war.

if it presented an immediate, imminent threat to the security of the US, if it was capable of producing a mushroom cloud, if it was really a set of nuclear weapons disguised as sarin...

Bush and company are liars.

Iraqi death all seems so worth it now.

that had sarin in it?

do I have that right? 1 roadside sarin bomb was the big threat that mobilized a world power to go and start a war?

1 freaking sarin roadside bomb justifies the ENTIRE WAR?

these bush-butt kissers are getting desperate to prop up the war aren't they? who shall we invade next on the basis of such stupidity?

but then that is cause and effect so Hannity wouldn't want to bring that up he would stumble all over himself to read the written material on that one.

I seriously don't think he can read.

so traces of sarin don't mean anything.

http://www.wtkr.com/Global/story.asp?S=1873574&nav=0oa8AfMQ

...as I recall the news story I heard on the radio, they reported that there MAY HAVE BEEN TRACES...of sarin.

This means nothing. There may have been traces of Hersey's chocolate in that one shell also, what does that prove? Nothing other than to divert attention away from REAL, FACTUAL stories concerning the corrupt practices of the Bush adminstration.

:+

And I don't pray.

so he can say bush is right - yes, I guess that's what he's saying.

I knew he would jump on that little bit of news. The repugs are grasping at straws.

Kidding, of course.

And this story is total horsecrap.

If Saddam has a WMD arsenal, wouldn't it have been in keeping with his evil, demented character to throw all this stuff at the invading "coalition of the willing" last year? (That phrase still makes me shake my head.)

That certainly was worth the lives and money spent in Iraq.

"... I'll bet Bush just sprouted wood!"

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Cynicism is growing, everyone...