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malachibk Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:21 PM
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"Two men and two women marrying each other is a passport to hell"
said Katherine Hockenbarger from Topeka, Kan., who was standing on an American flag"

I LOVE that this is the only piece of anti-gay marriage sentiment in the entire, 3-page story. It manages to capture both the argument and the intelligence level of those in the other camp.

It's a fucking great day. Congratulations to everyone.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:22 PM
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1. I don't know why but that made me laugh
passport to hell? lol c'mon it's funny!
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:38 PM
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11. Well, don't take it supernaturally:
those two men and two women will have a lot of work to do to make their foursome work.
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Goldom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:23 PM
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2. But you don't have passports TO places
they're FROM your country. Maybe she meant a plane ticket? :shrug: seems it would be hard to get the plane down under the Earth like that.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:24 PM
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3. They haven't figured it out.
That train already left the station. And it ain't coming back!:toast: Congrats all.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:26 PM
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4. Standing ON an American flag?

Isn't that some sort of Republican sin?
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:26 PM
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5. and the flag was her magic carpet?
A recent survey showed only 36% of Americans had valid passports anyway.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:26 PM
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6. Well if Ms. Hockenbarger
it the kinda person that in heaven, I'd rather go to hell.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:58 PM
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20. Me too, heaven sounds like a prison full of hypocrites and haters.
I want that stamped on my valid USA passport, "Hell" the weather was great!
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:31 PM
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7. I didn't know they had legalized four-ways!
Wow.

Bake
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:32 PM
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9. who said anything about a foursome?
:evilgrin:
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:31 PM
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8. This woman needs to stop and think about what she said:
If she's a fundie (which she sounds like), then those who practice homosexuality are "going to hell" anyway. Why would it matter if they got a piece of paper from the government and then engaged in homosexual acts? I mean, where in the bible does it talk about passports to hell. Did they even have passports back then? Or, what the hell is this dingbat talking about?

I mean, WTF?

Sometimes I wonder why I even look for rationality in their arguments. Its a useless exercise.
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:41 PM
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13. Hey, a passport not only gets one into a country, ...
it also gets one back out. Maybe the fundies are mellowing -- only sending gays for temporary visits to hell, rather than banishing them eternally.

Be careful: don't burn your thumb on the visa stamp.
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:36 PM
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10. Well, maybe she's right --
Edited on Mon May-17-04 04:37 PM by damnraddem
that foursome will have some real adjusting to do. ;-)

On the other hand, two men marrying each other and two women marrying each other will doubtless produce some happy matches.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:40 PM
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12. For once, I wish someone would call them on this crap.
How are gay marriages a "passport to hell"? How does she know? Did God tell her this? Why would the creator of EVERYTHING care whether two people in love were to marry? If God, for some peculiar reason, would despise gay marriage (I'm actaully trying to picture the Creator trembling with rage over same-sex marriage. Just can't picture it), why is Gavin Newsom, the mayor of San Francisco who presided over 3,000+ gay marriages, still alive? Shouldn't Mayor Newsom, according to Ms. Hockenbarger, be "smited" or something?

Just wondering.

BTW: A great day for gay people...and humanity in general. :-)

Terry
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:44 PM
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14. Somebody will do the smiting of Mr. Newsom in God's name, I suspect...
Sad. Really sad. Violence and death over THIS of all issues, gay unions. :eyes:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:47 PM
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17. This is so sad. It's about love.
And there are people so blinded with hate, they would actually consider committing violence to stop it.

Just tragically sad.

Terry
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:45 PM
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16. Well, marriage has been a declining institution for decades.
Many have dispensed with it altogether. Others engage in it in sequence with different partners. Now we have thousands who not only want to support it but to participate in it. So, what do the erstwhile 'defenders of marriage do'? They bash those who want to participate!

Dubya and company are destroying marriage by discouraging those seeking after it most avidly.
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cestmoi Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:44 PM
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15. Hell would be anyplace that had fundamentalists.
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:48 PM
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18. the phelpsian fundies
have taken a liking to flag desecration.

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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:48 PM
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19. great pics here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1616990
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gator_in_Ontario Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 05:02 PM
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21. I have been married since Sept
anyone that doesnt like it FUCK YOU!! And the horse you rode in on, and your friend's horses and their colts..I am tired of being nice
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