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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 12:54 PM
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Impressed by all the Dean magazine covers last week?
Guess who's our cover boy this week?

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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 12:57 PM
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1. Wonder who's organizing...
HIS Meetup events? :eyes:

B-)
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 01:12 PM
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2. Dean hit the trifecta plus last week
Time, Newsweek, US News, and Businessweek. Dean showed what a really good politician with a positive message can do.

Arnie could only garner one and that was based upon name recognition only.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 01:12 PM
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3. Dean's team has worked hard over the past few months
to position him where he is now in the mainstream media, overcoming the pundits' dismissiveness and even smears.

Ahnuld gets on with hardly any effort at all.

Interesting commentary on the importance of celebrity in our media culture.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 01:16 PM
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4. If Arnie was a Democrat, he'd get mocked
but because he's a Repuke, he gets a pass on scrutiny, at least for now, but if the Dems play it right, they could skewer Arnie and make him stumble over his tongue, which would betray his real intentions.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 01:18 PM
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5. Arnold is being promoted in every media, no one else is even mentioned
The Lt. Governor of California is being completely ignored as the media whores for Arnold nonstop.

This is very bad news for our chances in 2004.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:16 PM
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7. That's the point,
it's the same thing with the Democratic candidates. For months the media gives its attention to their chosen one. But, who really is doing the choosing? It's easier to get excited about someone who gets all the media attention, eh?
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Nazgul35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:25 PM
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9. I think that Dean is a completely different situation...
he had a well established base before MTP and the amount of money raised BY HIS SUPPORTERS in his huge second quarter are what brought him to the attention of the media....not the media selected a loser and made him into a candidate...

You want proof...Lieberman was the party annointed one...leading in all the polls...the media even went as far to say that he won the first debate (remember)...but what's happening to Lieberman now?

As Ah nold would say...apples and oranges....

BTW: Kerry had and good one liner this week (I think you're a Kerry supporter?) He said if you want to live like a republican, vote like a democrat...

:evilgrin:

Good One!!!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:40 PM
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11. More than that, Nazgul...
He receib=ved all the early credit for being an antiwar liberal when he was not completely antiwar OR even a liberal.

He and Kucinich were on par at the time. Why did the media only focus on Dean and not Kucinich? It was Kucinich who spoke at the antiwar rallies attended by millions, yet Dean stayed away and still reaped the rewards and the attention.
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 01:19 PM
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6. Ya! Go Dean!
n/t
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:23 PM
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8. honestly?
Dean got the covers due to a lot of hard work and unexpected grassroots support. Ahnold get's a cover because he's Ahnold.

Yeah, I'm still impressed with the coverage of Dean.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:32 PM
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10. OK...then answer this, please.
Back when Dean and Kucinich were both unknowns, why was Dean getting the media attention casting him as the antiwar liberal when he was not completely antiwar OR even a liberal?

It was Kucinich who was speaking out at antiwar rallies when Dean stayed away collecting antiwar $$$$. It was Kucinich who submitted legal papers to end the war but, Dean who received the credit from the supporters for being against an illegal war, collecting more antiwar $$$$.

Was this just an accident? Dean "accidently" cast himself as a liberal while calling longtime liberals "Bushlite"?

How could the press ignore a presidential candidate speaking at antiwar rallies while giving all the antiwar credit to a candidate who shunned those rallies?
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:40 PM
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12. Dean has never claimed to be a liberal.
Neither has he ever claimed to be anti-war. I suspect that he was labeled as both by the media in the climate of the Iraq invasion.

I recognize that Dennis was the one at the rallies.

How could the press ignore a presidential candidate speaking at antiwar rallies while giving all the antiwar credit to a candidate who shunned those rallies?

Umm...because it's the American press?
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