Does Nader beat his wife?

After his role in the 2000 election, I believe he is evil and may be capable of anything. I also suspect he may be a child molestor, has a picture of Adolf Hitler in his bedroom, and that he may have ties to Al Qaeda.

If you're going to demonize somebody, do it right!

I'm under the impression that he is unmarried and has no children.

can beat his wife.

Seems that is my recollection.

If you're going to demonize somebody, do it right!

Lets leave the character assassinations to the other side.

Low class.

~n

but this time he knows better and urged St. Ralph not to run.

I believe he was. If that's true, do you think we should beat him up and boycott his movies?

as for boycotting his movies, I won't take a position on that one.

with homosexuals who are not married.

...but this is a bullshit smear on Nader. And anyone that goes for it is nuts!!

Isn't Nader, in addition to being a wife-beater, a child molestor, and all the rest -- isn't he (dare I say it?) pro-life?

that he has a rifle AND a gun -- bullets, too.

AND he drives an SUV -- in which he burns premium gasoline produced at refineries in the Middle East where children are forced to work under appalling conditions!

He helped Bush get elected once, and he will do it again.

I had heard he gave (at no cost) crack to schoolkids in order to get them hooked.

I heard he sold schoolkids cigarettes. Made them pay New York City prices, too.

The bastard.

kids run out of money he tells them they may pay by sexually servicing him, or they can kill their parents and steal their money.

I had heard that instead of allowing kids to pay him (through servicing him personally) for additional rocks of crack, he forced them into a life of prostitution. And the clients he pimped the kids out to are, I heard, rich Republicans. Who are pro-life. And who wear fur. And eat meat. And don't recycle plastic bags from supermarkets.

And who are lousy tippers, too.

people when they become the employer targeted for unionization. I've seen it happen with Catholic hospitals, progressive community organizations like ACORN, the Salvation Army and lefty liberal colleges like Hampshire College and Mount Holyoke. Employers, no matter who they are, don't like their employees being unionized-- this even goes for unions! I've worked at two unions where union organizing drives by the field staff were crushed using the same dirty anti-union tactics used by most private employers.

Although I've never seen Catholic hospitals, progressive community organizations like ACORN, the Salvation Army and lefty liberal colleges like Hampshire College and Mount Holyoke speak out in favor of labor.

My own notion of Yale University -- Where Bill met Hillary -- is that it is a pretty progressive university.

But I think I am correct when I say that its students had to aply pressure to the University's Management in order to get the Univeristy to treat its support staff as people deserving of a decent wage.

And I think Yale may actually and actively resisted unionization of its support staff -- the lowest paid employees on the Yale campus.

Sorry I failed to make my point clear.

You had said that you had never seen Catholic hospitals, progressive community organizations like ACORN, the Salvation Army and lefty liberal colleges like Hampshire College and Mount Holyoke speak out in favor of labor.

I was making an observation that at least one progressive (I think "lefty" is a tad perjorative) univeristy -- Yale -- tends to support the rights of low-paid workers to unionize and participate in collective bargaining.

Except when it comes to their own staff.

Perhaps I was wrong in my observation.

Hope this clears things up for you.

The conversation veered from Nader - who is a union buster - to other so called liberal organizations who have discouraged unions (though none are running for president and are portrayed as "the working man's candidate") to it being pointed out that Yale doesn't support unions among part of their staff.

Not really relevant to Nader, but whatever.

totally pro-labor in the abstract, but once they are in the employer's position they are as anti-union as anyone else when it comes to their own employees. This is the objective material reality of the relationship between capital and labor.

2. ACORN is very pro-labor, they often work with unions on joint community-labor campaigns-- some ACORN branches nearly operate as SEIU subsidiaries.

3. The Catholic Church is pro-labor. Read Vatican documents on the subject. Many unions in Europe are explicitly allied with the Catholic church.

4. Hampshire College and Mount Holyoke College have liberal administrations and faculties that often speak out on the importance of organized labor in society (just not on THEIR campuses)

5. You're probably right about the Salvation Army-- hey, one out of four isn't bad-- oh yeah, it probably is. Of course, what would I know? I've only been a union member for 10 years, and a union organizer for 5 years.

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