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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 11:25 PM
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Where electronic voting machines are
used, they have to have paper ballots on hand in case the machines quit working for any reason..have people outside the polling places with big signs "ASK FOR A PAPER BALLOT". Keep them at least 100 feet from the polling place so no one can say someone is campaigning at the polls.
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drthais Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 11:34 PM
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1.  GREAT suggestion
I just read an article stating
that Florida e-voting machines
have now been certified for NOVEMBER! thanks!
so I immediately emailed my congressman (woman) Landrieu

asking her to (a) read Bev Harris' book and (b) please fight
to decertify Dielbold machines for use here in November
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 11:45 PM
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2. Would they allow them to be used
if the machines were 'working'?

Are there statutes that cover this? What is the likelyhood of going in, asking for a paper ballot, and being given one to use?

Probably more questions, but can't think of them right now.
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 11:52 PM
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3. Great idea!
I don't see why it can't be done. We also have to make sure our districts have the paper ballots; which is much easier than taking out Diebold, even with Bev, Andy, and other patriots fighting each day. We just need to make a damn scene.

It is up to us--true grass roots, take back our democracy time.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 12:18 AM
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5. "This Machine Isn't Working!"
"...somebody :puke:ed on it"
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 12:09 AM
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4. A better idea
Edited on Thu May-20-04 12:13 AM by Virginian
at least in my county, would be to vote absentee. You have to give a reason. The best reason I can think of would be... because you are working the polls and are assigned out of your precinct.

You must get to your assigned polling place at 5:00 am.
The polls open at 6:00 am. People are usually waiting in line. You must stay all day assisting voters. You cannot leave for any reason. You bring your breakfast, lunch and dinner as well as any snacks or medications you may need during the day. The polls close at 7:00pm.
You can start counting after the last person in line at 7:00pm has voted. (That could be 9:00 pm this November.)
You must stay until the last vote is counted, the count is called in the paperwork is completed, the machines are locked up and the room is put back to how we found it. If we counted paper ballots it would add a few hours to the task. It already takes us until 9:00 or 10:00. Are you ready to work a 24 hour day for $100?

We have 4 - 6 machines. If one goes down we don't use it until the authorized person fixes it and has it back online. We have others.
The only paper ballots we have are "conditional" ballots which may or may not get counted depending on the reason written on the outside of the envelope. You can't get one of those by asking. There has to be a good reason. There is a hearing the following day and the conditional ballots are ruled on one by one, and if the reason on the envelope is ruled acceptable, it is opened and counted then.

People who work the polls are people like you, with full time jobs. They take a vacation day from their regular job to perform this service. You can help the lines move faster if you are working. Call your election office and tell them you want to be a poll worker. Consider it your civic responsibility to do your part to make sure we have a fair election. You may not be able to do anything about the machines, but you can make sure the procedures are followed fairly. And thank people for voting, especially the ones who voted for your guy.

on edit: We don't have Diebold. Keep the fight going. We can't let a single company determine our elections.
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