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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:23 PM
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Nader's 9/11 Plan
Seems everyone had a plan except for the Unelected pResident. And on what does Nader base his plan??? An old report issued by the (capable) Clinton Administration.

Bombing innocent and unarmed people into the Stone Age does not make me feel any safer.

I don't know about you.

Get a load of this: Likely 2004 third-party presidential hopeful Ralph Nader thinks the 9/11 terrorist attacks wouldn't have happened if he had been president. He claims that amid all the big decisions new presidents have to make after inauguration, he would have ordered cockpit doors to be hardened against attack. He says an old report warning about how easy it is to get in the cockpit still sticks with him. What's more, he would have wiped out Osama bin Laden and his gang without a shot being fired. How? Bribe Osama's friends to hand him over.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/030818/whispers/18whisplead.htm


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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:28 PM
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1. Ralph the Monday morning Quarterback
A day late, a dollar short, and in his own Nader way.......totally irrelevent.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:29 PM
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2. Nader is a liar! And an ingrate! And hates cute babies!
(Just wanted to save some folks a little breath...;-) )

I do suspect he is quite wrong here, though. By the time of the 2000 elections, the forces that resulted in 9/11 made the attacks pretty much inevitable, no matter who was in office. RN is closer than most about how to deal with those forces themselves, but American imperialism wasn't going to be magically fixed in a year and a half.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:30 PM
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3. you forgot
that he bites his nails!!!!!

:hi:
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:31 PM
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4. LOL!
has BO...

looks like he sleeps in his suit...etc...

:hi:
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:40 PM
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6. Inevitable? So thats why no warnings were given to Airlines?
Despite the known threat to hijack and fly planes into buildings?

OK then, now I know why the W* Admin saw no need for addressing

these known threats and Cheney had but one meeting re: terra

beCause it was inevitable.


Tell us another one
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:46 PM
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8. you misunderstand.
Attacks of some kind were inevitable. They simply were. We've pissed all over the poor in the developing world for too long for it to be otherwise.

Yes, there were warnings that were ignored by the Bush admin, and that could possibly have prevented the specific attacks we sustained. They would have found another way.

Just as I expect that, eventually, they'll find another way again.
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:49 PM
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9. Ok, understood, yet policy changes could have stopped it all
and still can.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:56 PM
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12. sure
May we see such policy changes in our lifetimes.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:01 PM
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14. Well, we do have that spiffy color terra lert chart
:eyes:
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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:37 PM
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5. That is absolute crap!
Those attacks were in fact a long time in the planning. Even if the wonderful Ralphie boy had been president, I don't believe for a moment that the attacks could have been prevented by then. He is making me ill now . . .

:grr: :bounce:
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:44 PM
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7. Oh Yeah, the Incredible Osama was just Unstoppable, no mere mortal...
... could have done a thing.

Tell it to Johnny O. But you can't tell him , he's dead because

corporats were playing politics with National Security.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:56 PM
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13. No it's not. The airlines were too cheap to upgrade the doors
I'll bet Clinton even recommended it. It's probably another thing Bush doesn't want anyone to know.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:51 PM
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10. The sheer ego that Nader has
can probably fill in the state of California.
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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:53 PM
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11. I wouldn't believe US Spews
As much as I don't like Nader, I'm still not going to slam him based on what US Spews has to say.
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jfkennedy Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:28 PM
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15. I agree with Nader's plan to stop 9/11
I agree with Nader's plan to stop 9/11. I traveled in that area before 9/11. I went to the mountains near Kashmir India. I agree with Nader 100%.


I think Nader's point also, is that for perhaps a few thousand dollars, given to some of the people in that area, the Taliban could of been turned over to the US.I also have no doubt the whole Taliban army could of been turned over to the US, as well by a few bribes.
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:44 PM
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16. wouldn't have helped
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 04:47 PM by buddhamama
Sept. 11 was planned before the election.
even if Nader had won,his changes wouldn't have happened fast enough to stop it.

Gore proposed changes too,had been working on them before the election.

Ralph is being mighty presumptuous.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:47 PM
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17. And arrogant and egocentric too
But then again why am I not suprised?
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:48 PM
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18. you try and save some folks the effort...
:shrug:
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:51 PM
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20. how does that work exactly
dressing left?

i drink slightly to the left, does that count?
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:55 PM
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21. let's put it this way.
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 04:57 PM by ulysses
You can't dress left. Or right, for that matter.

;-)

(it has to do with how tailored pants fit)
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:50 PM
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19. don't know...
because you're obsessed and wherever Ralph is, so are you.

hmmm...
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 05:43 PM
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22. Ralph is our Savior!
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 05:47 PM by JackSwift
He would have prevented the recession, kept the Russians from launching Sputnik, won in Vietnam, caught the Watergate burglars in the act and prevented Lex Luthor from launching two nuclear missiles in Superman the Movie. If only he had run for President in 2000, he would have won, if Bush hadn't stolen all his votes. Well at least he can hoard the money from all the campus PIRGS that tax students.

Ralph is the magical cloud being that grants our wishes that are thwarted only by the dastardly Darth Kitten. He is all knowing and all seeing. If only we would turn over our freedom to him, he would tell us all what to do and our freedom would be enhanced! O, Ralph, who art in Washington D.C., hollow be thy shame, thy Socialist Order come, thy will be done, and thy own Glory shall be forever and ever, never wrong, always right, thou art a better being than any other ass-kisser in thine holy Zion within thy glorious beltway.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 05:58 PM
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23. Now tell us about Clinton's Penis?
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 05:59 PM by TahitiNut
There seems to be a thematic similarity. :eyes:


I always thought it was elephants that were afraid of mice. I didn't know it was donkeys. :shrug:
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 06:07 PM
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24. Clinton's Penis is a mighty penis
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 06:18 PM by JackSwift
proud and brave. It has laid many a skeptic in a grave. It is round and it is fat, half as big as a baseball bat. Lo, these many years it has fought Congressional battles, out-penising Hyde's, Livingston's, Gingrich's, Barr's and Burton's like they were baby's rattles. It has caused much woe, and even suffered a Lewinsky blow. But hearty and meaty it has outstripped the envy of Rush's polloidnal cyst. An ode to the great weenie, I can't resist. By chubby girls everywhere, its been kissed.

Flaccid or firm, at rest or a rave, it is a mighty penis, both proud and brave. For eight long years, it caused the markets bull, peace and joy the world did lull. Honor and integrity the Bush did whine, was far from our country's mind. 'Twas prosperity and peace without purpose, that mighty penis did foist upon us. Bush was the anti-penis it did assure us. War and recession would be back, a natural result of the dickless hack. The treasury did the Bush it raid, and ran up the national debt and to Neal and Marvin it's bounty gave. But the mighty Clinton penis did thrive, and Bush smirked: "now watch this drive"

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 08:53 PM
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27. I am Bic Pentameter?
:silly:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 12:11 AM
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28. Ah, the mighty Clenis
:hi:
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 01:36 AM
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32. I'm so moved -
I have tears in my eyes! A beautiful ode to a fantastic, powerful penis!
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 06:14 PM
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25. megalomania
conviction of one's own extreme greatness, power, and/or knowledge; the ideas in megalomania are known as delusions of grandeur.

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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 12:14 AM
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29. Joe Lieberman?!
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 06:23 PM
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26. The BFEE/MIC was going to blow up the TCs and no one but Bush
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 06:23 PM by Sterling
Would have been allowed to win in 2k. The sooner you guys figure this out the better. That includes Ralph.
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Lostnote03 Donating Member (850 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 12:52 AM
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30. Thank You!!!
.........I agree!!!......Yes 911 was planned in advance but by whom???.......I have not concluded that elements within our own Govt were NOT willing participants.....In fact all of the RED flags indicate just that!!!
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IranianDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 01:02 AM
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31. Nader's Defense plan is to fly to North Korea and sing Kumbaya.
eom.
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