I think we should remind all lurkers that Freepers (Nick Berg blame)

are partly responsible for Berg's death. Their inane pro-war activism led to one freeper, a self described 'clintonologist', Doug From Upland to create an Enemies list, which he forwarded to various government agencies. Perhaps it was because of this that Nick Berg was detained by US authoritites in Iraq, only to vanish after being released. Sounds like the Freedom Riders being arrested on trumped up charges only to be hijacked by the Klan after released from jail.

I think the Bush administration has it's own covert ops team (not CIA, FBI, Military---a complete black ops group that works directly for the Bush Admin), perhaps with mercenaries, perhaps like Nixon's plumbers, who can make thin gs happen to benefit Bush

It's a real slippery slope you're on. It's an equivalent of when the wingnuts say that liberals aid and abbet the enemy.

That said, I share your disgust for fascist tactics like "enemies lists". But be careful to not start creating one of your own.

The Office of Special Planning - operating independently under Rumsmells in the Pentagon to do the Cabal's dirty work?

Or the Office of Disinformation - allegedly disbanded but can you believe them when they say that they are disbanded? By definition you can't...

O.D.?




Makes sense...

they simply would not have had to. Even if they did want him dead, they wouldn't have to do it themselves. However, it is highly unlikely that they wanted him dead. The boy was providing information to the USA-related groups. The other side figured it out.

with what slavkomae said. Very slippery slope. Both sides do it and it must be stopped.

Where was the last "enemies list" YOU saw at DU that called for harrassment and the firing of private citizens from their jobs? Oh, that's right, we don't do that shit, cuz we're NOT FUCKING INSANE!

No, only one side does it, so give up that false magnanimous bullshit and realize that the right wants our extinction, fantasizes about our deaths and takes it upon themselves to help people get killed for ideological reasons.

And enjoy your stay at DU.

I totally agree with the "takes it upon themselves to help people get killed for ideological reasons" part.
However, if you believe both sides of the isle in Washington don't have little lists to help their own political life while totally disregarding the whole populace, then I will have to respectfully disagree with you on that one.

& that they were merely providing a public service by turning names in to the FBI, Homeland Security and the various other agencies they mentioned in their thread.

It's a hate site for Gestapo sympathizers- all fun & games until someone loses their head and then they wail that they never meant to really hurt anyone. BULL-SHIT! They were contacting people's employers to turn them in for being terrorist sympathizers simply because those decent people endorsed a statement calling for justice for the Palestinians.

I'm with you Zuni. You reap what you sow and the Freepers crossed the line.

Fuck the Freepers. They're a bunch of gutless little weasels who like to act tough online (aside from the fact that they ban anyone who disagrees with them, the wimps). Snitches and jackbooted babies, united under Bush.

The creation of lists (something the freepers seem to have an inordinate amount of time to do) -- be they "enemies" lists, "traitors" lists, "Hollywood traitors" lists, "abortion doctor" lists, etc., is a very negative activity out of which no legitimate good can come.

The posting of individual names and addresses can only lead to harassment at the very least, and it has the potential to invite even more invasive and possibly violent activity by more unstable types, who mistakenly believe that they possess God and the law as both weapon and shield.

On edit: To those who would argue "Well, it's all public information anyway," I say bull****. Raw public information is not in any kind of context, whereas placing a name and contact info on an "enemies" list creates a politically and emotionally charged context. It's a low-end equivalent of a "Wanted: Dead or Alive" poster.

maybe it`s time for liberals to get some nuts, and compose our own lists-of people who need to get their goddam asses sued off. Or roll over and play dead, and let them kick us again, like we`ve been doing for 3 frikkin` years-