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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:04 PM
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Thoughts on waiting for a train in NYC
left NYC today after a week long business trip. Sitting in the amtrak waiting area for 45 minutes listening to the intercom tell me to alert authorities to any suspicious packages. Over and over again. Totally creeped me out. National guardsmen, cops with dogs, just very scary. I wouldn't want to be there during the RNC Convention- sitting underneath Madison Square Garden. I am sure the security will be very tight- thereby making you think about the need for the security every second. Ugh. What a world we are living in right now.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:05 PM
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1. If security there is anything like that of the DNC
The train station underneath the convention center will be closed.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:08 PM
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3. Impossible.
That is the main station for thousand and thousands of commuters. Impossible to close it. Highly unlikely.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:18 PM
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7. i agree!
the anti-bush, anti-war crowd would be NOTHING compared to what would happen if they tried to shut down Penn Station.

"impossible" is right!

p.s. hey Steph! got my performance dates for The Question W Revue! we open in Mid july with an eye to run through the convention!! will be posting more info very soon and will have a new page on www.questionW.com by the weekend.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:36 PM
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10. saw some pink Tshirts this week with "ditch him"
emblazoned on the front- are they code pink shirts? I think I want one.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:39 PM
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13. try this site
http://www.codepink4peace.org/
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:52 PM
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14. thanks!
didn't find the ditch him shirts, but I like the ones they do have- I think they will be great gifts for all my friends.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 10:40 PM
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15. I saw a bumper sticker recently for this organization
sounds interesting!
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 10:58 PM
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16. Medea Benjamin is incredible!
and one of the driving forces behind Code Pink...

I will be including their link in my "resources for activism/education" hand-out for ?W this summer for sure!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 12:07 AM
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18. Cool! I will be there for sure!
Put me on your list.

xx
S
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:20 PM
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8. Loads of people use the T in Boston
And several stops are being closed. The entire city is going to be a mess during the convention.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:37 PM
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11. if the T is a subway line
that's one thing.

Penn station is MUCH MUCH more than a subway stop. it would be crippling. economically, Bloomberg just couldn't do it.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:39 PM
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12. Oh, didn't realize it was Penn we were talking about
Ooops. That poses all sorts of fun security concerns then.

Glad I'm going to the DNC rather than the RNC.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:01 PM
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17. Boston's Penn is North Station...which will be CLOSED
because it is under the convention center. As will Interstate 93, because it runs near the convention center. Thanks to the REPUBLICAN governor, Mitt Romney. He just wants to make sure all the dems are safe, y'understand? That's all.

Read that again...in Boston, they are closing the interstate and a main subway station. It is going to cripple the city, not to mention that closing the train station at the convention center means everyone has to DRIVE or take alt transport...but the HIWAY will be closed, too. This is going to be a world class cluster fuck.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:09 PM
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4. i guess the people who commute every day
will have to find alternate means of getting to work- might be a good time to take a vacation. WillPitt said months ago "they will rue the day" they chose NYC for their site- I just hope lots of other people don't. And I hope the protests are powerful tools FOR us and not a weapon to be used against us.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:07 PM
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2. We have lived like that for the last two and half years
This is nothing. You should have been here for the six months post 9/11, if you want to experience real anxiety. Most of us still aren't over it. Welcome to NY!
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:11 PM
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5. i was in the city in January following 9/11
it was creepy then too- except that then it felt like a total abberation, surreal even. Now it feels like we will always live in fear. I hate it.
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:18 PM
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6. There is no point living a life of fear.
If you do live a life of fear, you'll just regret it 20, 30, 50 years down the road.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:34 PM
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9. you're right, of course.
I do try to remember that, but these days it just washes over me sometimes- I'm mostly scared for my sons. I'm also angry and determined, that helps a bit to fight the fear. The thing of it is, I am normally a bit of a Pollyanna, glass half full kinda girl- that's getting harder.
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