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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:23 PM
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How 'bout some equal time for the non-believers here at DU??
So, what's with the influx of bible-beaters and their incessant whiney posts on how people who aren't xtian are being mean to them? Last time I check it was the non-believers who were persecuted, tortured, or killed throughout history.

How about some respect for those who choose NOT to believe in some farsical being and fantasy-island afterlife?

Nuff' said.

JB
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:25 PM
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1. Ooo. I'm telling Jesus what you said.
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:27 PM
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5. Great. Say hi to the holy ghost and casper while your at it. LOL.
Life is too short to waste time hoping for something better once your 6 feet under.

JB
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:32 PM
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7. Wouldn't he already know?
:D

Maybe omniscience doesn't include DU. Hey, if every self-proclaimed 'christian' behaved as Jesus supposedly suggested (instructed?), I would have absolutely no problem with them.

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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:33 PM
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9. He still expects us to report this stuff to him. Loyalty test.
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:35 PM
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10. Does God Google?
Edited on Thu May-20-04 11:37 PM by AngryWhiteLiberal
Then again, if omniscience is a godly quality...wouldn't that make Google God of the Internet??? Yikes.

JB
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:38 PM
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12. God has a sense of humor. Proof: He created the Irishman.
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Rationality Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 12:30 AM
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21. LOL!
:evilgrin:
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 01:49 AM
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23. Not possible
The Bible (Old and New Testament) is riddled with contradictions and inconsistencies the ONLY way a person could lead a truly biblical life is by having a SERIOUS case of Dissociative Identity Disorder.

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galadrium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:27 PM
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2. It seems pretty even handed around here to me... and I am not a Christian.
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bhunt70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:31 PM
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6. I feel the same way, not religious either.
Broad brush strokes flew around here today.
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taxidriver Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:27 PM
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3. the persecution of Christians is real, but not in America.
Around the world, especially in parts of the middle east and Africa, Christians are persecuted very badly. however, i will grant you that for an american Christian to complain about their situation is pretty baseless.
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:33 PM
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8. Granted. Hell, the US was populated be religious refugees, but...
It's time for civilization to move beyond petty squabbles about who's religion is right. Why can't people see that organized religion and religious furvor have brought nothing but misery to the world???

Don't get me wrong. I think Jesus had a few good things to say about the virtue of altruism and other "liberal" ideals...it's just too bad that the Old Testament and religious rigidity get in the way of capturing a "kernel of truth" from his legend.

JB
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 12:08 AM
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18. As an American Christian (at least I try to be), I agree with you
Edited on Fri May-21-04 12:12 AM by demo@midlife
I do know that mainline/progressive/liberal Christians in America are often harassed, undermined and demonized by their brothers & sisters on the Christian Right. (It's often a well-orchestrated and overtly political effort.) And yet THEY are the only ones crying persecution; these folks are often very thin-skinned.

Go figure!
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:27 PM
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4. I dont believe you said that

SOrry. If you're going to be a non-believer, you gotta be consistent.
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 12:21 AM
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20. Hunh? Consistent with what?
You need to be more clear, if you're going to be a xtian.

Opps, I'm sorry "clarity" is a Scientology trait.

JB
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:38 PM
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11. Seen any posts attacking non-believers?

'Nuff said.
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uncle ray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 03:59 AM
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27. apparantly you missed the post
from the whiney guy about Xtians and fundies?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:42 PM
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13. Part of Reality is Sanity, To Reject Evidence of Sanity and Reality
is adhering to the Fantasy Mode.
A bad mode indeed as History shows Fanatical Leaders and Philosophies have a counter productive result for Humanity in General. There are better ways, we just have to insist and actively work for them.
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:43 PM
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14. Indeed.
I always get a chuckle when I hear some poor poor Xian complain that someone is calling them names.

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moof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 12:00 AM
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15. Glad to see the casper reference, hope
it catches on, if people want to have a supernatural hero they
should confine themselves to reading marvel comics and knock it off with the constant attempts to convince others that their favorite myth is reality.
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 12:03 AM
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16. Every Christian has a bit of a persecution complex.
You know, be like Jesus and all.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 12:03 AM
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17. What I like best about being a non-believer is
I'm less inclined to do wacky things like genocide and persecution in the name of some Invisible Cloud Being. Or vote Republican.
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 12:18 AM
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19. But, you are inclined to Hello Kitty. :)
I'm with you sister...though, not a big Hello Kitty fan. What's up with the Hello Kitty stuff anyway? I remember the Hello Kitty popping it's head up in the early 80s, most particularly on clear plastic pencil bags. Wow. Now, there's a trip down memory lane...

JB
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 02:21 AM
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25. Who would Jesus bomb?
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TheWizardOfMudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 12:51 AM
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22. I'm all for it
Equal time for all!
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Delano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 02:15 AM
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24. "choose NOT to believe?"
I didn't choose not to believe. Growing up, I liked science and logic, thinking things through to their logical conclusions. From an early age, all the religious stories just didn't add up in my mind, whereas the most logical explanation (the physical world being just as it appears to be, with no magical hidden worlds beyond) did. I would read the bible, hoping for some sort of epiphany, but the more I would read, the more ludicrous it seemed, and the more I was acutely aware that this was just a book, written by people just as flawed as us, with just as many ulterior motives as we have today.

If I could CHOOSE to believe in a magical savior and a beautiful afterlife, I most certainly would. I am incapable of believeing in something for which there is no rationale for it to actually exist. I've often though of going to a hypnotist, and gettting him to hypnotize me into believing in some benign religion, just for the peace of mind. Somehow, I doubt it would work with me...
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 02:32 AM
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26. "farsical being and fantasy-island afterlife"
Respect will be given when respect is received.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 04:51 AM
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28. but that's what he is saying
we are excpected to respect others views but his views are NOT respected and CERTAINLY not given equal time.
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