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wyethwire Donating Member (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 07:51 PM
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Rumsfeld Lie on Baghdad Murder Rate - EXPOSED
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 07:52 PM by wyethwire
An AP reporter actually bothered to track down a murder rate in Baghdad by counting bodies with bullet holes in the Baghdad morgue. Meanwhile, the Secretary of Defense and a "respected" academic hold to the time honored tradition of pulling numbers out of their ass.

To recap:

You've got to remember that if Washington, D.C., were the size of Baghdad, we would be having something like 215 murders a month. Donald Rumsfeld, 6/19/2003

Yet, despite Iraqis owning machine guns and the country still not under control, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld pointed out that Baghdad is experiencing fewer murders than Washington, D.C., where handguns are banned. John Lott, 6/26/2003

The Baghdad police don't have official crime statistics, but the number of bodies at the city's morgue says it all. Baghdad is in the midst of an unprecedented crime wave. The city morgue handled 470 gunshot deaths in July. Associated Press, 8/11/2003
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belab13 Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 07:58 PM
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1. Worse than morally bankrupt, Rumsfeld is pathologically evil.
but I'm sure everyone here already knows this.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 08:45 PM
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2. He was talking about murders of Americans
Iraqi murders don't count.
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wyethwire Donating Member (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:24 PM
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3. John Lott wasn't
John Lott claimed the murder rate in Baghdad was lower than the murder rate in Washington.

He had no research to back it up.

A reporter did his homework and found out it was a lie.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:33 PM
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4. "Cop Killings", Not Murders
Because that's what soldier killings represent, right? Compare 42 American deaths in a month to 116 cop killings in DC.

116 cop killings IN HE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE CITY!!!!!!!!!!!! :grr: :grr: :grr:
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Sweetpea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 04:40 AM
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5. God knows we don't know the scores that are being settled
etc....or just desparate people trying to survive.
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wyethwire Donating Member (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 08:55 AM
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6. But John Lott
Claims that more guns lead to less crime in IRaq
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