Patrick Buchanan is usually a savvy political analyst but....

On MSNBC earlier today, he was critical of the press for showing more of the photos. He suggested they were only going after George Bush and they were affecting the morale of the troops in the war..

But what he didn't say was that George Bush has not let anyone go for any of these scandals, just like he didn't let anyone go for the intelligence failures on 9/11. The press is absolutely right. Keep the pressure on the White House as long as they think they don't have to be responsible for anything and they do not have to answer to anybody. It is sufficient simply to say, "I accept responsibility" but never ask for any consequences for those responsibilities.

Fire Rumsfeld ! That would be a good start, don't you think? But Bush says, "Screw you!" I'm not firing anybody. We'll ride it out. The media will find something else to talk about soon. And we will continue with our job....whatever that is..

After all, they don't get American broadcast TV in Iraq, do they? And didn't these photos originate with the troops? Why would reminders of their handiwork have a negative impact on morale?

Sorry Patrick. If these photos make you squirmy, just remember that it's your party's administration that put this whole thing into effect. If you're having second thoughts now . . .


DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

and something like this abuse scandal is devastating to the vast majority of soldiers who are decent people like you and me. Don't get me wrong; this had to be made public. But most troops would find it as sickening as we do.

I met with several vets the other day, one great NCO that had recently got back from Iraq was in total agreement about the problem being in command, and I'd like to let it be known that this brave NCO has refused illegal orders, even from a 2 star-he's given 20+years of service to our nation only to see this come crashing down on the professional military due to, as he put it, "the fucking know-it-alls" and their politics.

This administration is a criminal tragedy of historic proportions impacting on every level of our nation with negative consequences for Americans worldwide.

He had some choice comments about the mercenaries too.

expressly for the purpose of passing them around to be seen by their buddies.

therefore, shouldn't increased exposure of the photos increase morale?

as proven by it's opening words "Patrick Buchanan is usually a savvy political analyst..."

:)

so why did he call Hitler a great leader?

But I do think Buchanan is a savvy analyst, although I disagree with him about 98.6 % of the time...

so why does he think "brown people" are the US's biggest problem?

so why did he help Bush* by destroying the Reform Party?

and has usually been loyal to the Republican Party.

so why did he go work for Nixon?

Why wouldn't a savvy political analyst go to work for him? Pat didn't go to jail for anything, so that's pretty savvy too.

so no, a savvy political analyst would not go to work for him.

He skedaddled out of DC before the House could refer the articles of impeachment out of committee and to the full body for a vote.

And then, three weeks later, he was pardoned by his hand-picked successor. And the Pubs made such a deal out of Clinton pardoning Marc Rich!

Nixon resigned.

What an honor

Carry on with the flame war. I need the diversion after such a crappy week.

It's my pleasure to serve you

Or feel my steely wrath.

:bounce:

But that reasoning it would be even less savvy to have gone to work for Clinton.

Anyway, the point that I thought was self-frigging-explanatory is that going to work for people that get elected president of the united states is considered a good career move for political types.

I personally do not. But how do we define a "savvy political analyst"?

"Hitler was a great leader" is NOT an example of political savvy

And a lot of people agree with Bush*

:)

"Great" has a meaning. "Leader" has a meaning. It's not easy for a small ugly man with no money to get the world's second or third greatest power to commit suicide. Unlike Bush, Hitler by all accounts had considerable charisma and all sorts of people who should have known better were so taken with Hitler that they bought into his whole scene. (Bush was promoted by political behind-the-scenes guys because of his lineage, making him just another in a long line of idiot kings promoted by greedy 'advisers') The word 'great' has many meanings... It seems plain enough in what sense Hitler was a great leader. There's the great white shark, and the great war... neither of those things is really 'great' in the sense of being good. The great barrier reef is pretty 'great' but it's name means large, not wonderful.

You are equating politics and morality. Political analysis is about who wins and stuff like that.

The post didn't start with, "Buchanan is a moral paragon."

Pat Buchanan is one of the few people out there worth listening to on the topics of politics. Not morality or even sound policy, but on politics.

kentuch said that this time, Buchanon wasn't being savvy, and kentuck's reasoning had nothing to do with how this statement might (or might not) further Buchanon's career.

If by "savvy", Kentuck had meant "knows how to further his own career", then his remarks are also savvy. But the truth is that when kentuck said this was not savvy, it was followed up by an explanation for why Buchanon was wrong. That means that in this case, "savvy" means "accurate"

I guess "not savvy would mean not accurate".. word games. Of course, as in the topic, we are talking about political analysis, are we not??

Good work!!

"But what he didn't say was that George Bush has not let anyone go for any of these scandals, just like he didn't let anyone go for the intelligence failures on 9/11. The press is absolutely right"

Please note that your criticism of Pat is based on your conclusion that "The press is absolutely right"

And I would also like to note how pleasant it is to be explaining what you said to you. Until now, I had assumed that you understood yourself, but now I realize that you're in the same boat with the rest of us

We seem to relish that...Yes the "press is right"? Now what did you think that meant? Do you think everyone interpreted it as you do?

But this conversation is adding nothing to the discussion. Meaningless words with nothing of value intended - simply for the sake of argument.

You keep pumping out great thoughtful posts. :yourock:

I feel like it's my day to carry the cross... :)

that is was not a big deal. that just interragating. that they were bad people and what soldiers did not nearly as bad as saddam and the beheading and on and on.

if right had said bad us,...........we were wrong, we did wrong, then we could have stopped the pictures

but they had to come out. the beating and murder of that man, was it any worse then the beheading. he had a much longer and torturess death

right begged for these to come out again

Bush is challenging the media, in my opinion.

saying let all this go. getting in way of war. not a big deal. was sick. dems were sitting on tv with mouths hanging open. told husband that nite time to have more pictures leaked. they got arrogant. they didnt learn

i too feel they are challenging. but that is the bring it on mentality, the challenge all the time. they can never stand up to challenging. like the little guy, challenging the foot taller dude. little guys dont do that. they get clever and figure a different way. mostly thru ooops "deep thinking" and reasoning.