John Kerry says he will not accept the nomination until after convention

But he has his reasons. And they are really quite brilliant. (ven Pat Buchanan thinks so) His reasoning is that once he is nominated at the convention, he can no longer raise money as a candidate. Since the Repubs will not have their convention until 5 weeks later, they would have 5 extra weeks to raise funds and Kerry would be prohibited if he accepts the nomination. The Repubs were quite clever in their move but Kerry was brilliant in countering that he would not accept nomination until later. He can be nominated at the convention but he doesn't have to accept.. :) He will think about it. Excellent!

...to revive their Hillary scenario. :eyes:

Paranoid little dweebs.

Lord, these people are scared to death of Hillary. I'd love to see them locked in a room with her. Poor little things would probably shit themselves silly.

http://www.lucianne.com/threads22.asp?artnum=141292

Reply 1 - Posted by: pomom, 5/21/2004 2:44:30 PM

Two words: Hillary Clinton


Reply 4 - Posted by: earlybird, 5/21/2004 2:49:50 PM

Isn't this the bloody limit!

How can anyone want a world-class liar and manipulator like this in the White House? He's beginning to make even BJ sound like a piker.

What he doesn't seem to realize is that he could spent trillions of dollars on advertising and it won't change the thing that is intrinsically wrong with his candidacy. It is usually described 'you can't turn a sow's ear into a silk purse'. For all of his so-called Brahmin-ness, he is a walking, talking sow's ear.


Reply 11 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 5/21/2004 2:55:51 PM

What's the point of the convention if they are not nominating a candidate?
I smell a 'RAT, a dirty 'RAT.


Reply 14 - Posted by: RoyGBiv, 5/21/2004 3:01:21 PM

I am relishing the day when whoever Lurch chooses for his running mate gets to have his arse handed to him in a debate with Cheney. Jim Lehrer may have to administer several standing eight counts, while McAwful applies ice compresses and styptic to the poor slob or slobette.


Reply 16 - Posted by: mominNoCA, 5/21/2004 3:02:18 PM

Wow. Typical Democrat. He thinks that he can solve his problems by spending more money!

A lifetime supply of botox, a personality transplant and supergluing his mouth shut would be helpful, but they wouldn't solve his problems. Money can't buy the help he needs.


Reply 18 - Posted by: Jackie, 5/21/2004 3:02:29 PM

I smell a PIAPS.....one rotten to the hocks..


Reply 34 - Posted by: RoyGBiv, 5/21/2004 3:18:06 PM

If Lurch had an ounce of decency in just one of those lanky, meatless bones, he'd choose Sharpton so he could retire the black man's debt.

"C'mon Dude. Help a brutha out. I guarantee Harlem for ya."


Reply 35 - Posted by: LegendHasIt, 5/21/2004 3:19:28 PM

If this is kerry's idea and if he REALLY intends to be President, he is dumber than even we Ldotters believe.

It just provides a superb path for a substitution when it becomes obvious that he is unelectable.

PIAPS is salivating, PIAPS is gleeful.

By the way, did you see her little video clip on FOX a few minutes ago about how she is "taking the lead in the Senate to "Rebuild" the military for the end-user" (or something to that effect)??????


Reply 36 - Posted by: simkeith, 5/21/2004 3:19:40 PM

Hmmmmm and people thought I had my tin foil hat on when I predicted that Lurch would not be the nominee. I smell a Clinton sized rat here, and it looks like Hillary.

My prediction again, drum roll please:

Hillary-Brokaw nominated at the convention.


Reply 37 - Posted by: erp, 5/21/2004 3:19:55 PM

I guess Bush hasn't been sufficiently softened up for the kill yet, so Hillary can't make her move in July as planned. Just how pathetically dumb are the leftwing nutcases that they would actually believe this and just how pathetically needy is Kerry to go along with it knowing that he's toast.


Reply 60 - Posted by: COGOP, 5/21/2004 3:50:35 PM

Good grief these Leftists are beyond ridiculous, they're now very dangerous.


Reply 77 - Posted by: Goalposts, 5/21/2004 4:19:05 PM

I guess the terrorist told Hillary, they couldn't pull off their next big attack on american soil till August...

I'm sorry, but Kerry, he's simply a festering, steaming, TURD.


Reply 81 - Posted by: Shells, 5/21/2004 4:24:07 PM

Yep. Hillary's hoof prints are all over this. The first horsewoman of the apocalypse.


Reply 82 - Posted by: Stymie, 5/21/2004 4:31:54 PM

Frankley, I think Kerry has too big an ego to roll over for the former president and her husband, so this may be his strategey to keep her from causing mischief at the convention.
Just a thought.


Reply 88 - Posted by: TheTech, 5/21/2004 4:45:54 PM

He just handed the race to President Bush. What an idiot. I am not versed on campaign laws, but what if "W" did the same thing after the Republican Convention. Talk about throwing the DIM's a fast curve ball that acts like a change up. They won't know what to do with the pitch.

This is checkmate for Kerry. The PIG her slick willy hibby are in the wings manipulating the events. Only a fool could not see what is happening.

BTW- speaking of DIMs, did anyone hear what Rush called DIMs today. He said a DIM was an uninformed Republican. Go Rush. Go "W"!
Bye J effin K!


Reply 99 - Posted by: cb, 5/21/2004 5:03:27 PM

I sense something is *ahoof* (a la the cloven-hoofed one)!

FHIAPS (Feral Hog in a Pants Suit) is up to something...


Reply 109 - Posted by: Sazedog, 5/21/2004 5:37:46 PM

Those who smell the putrid stench of Hillary's fetid perfume polluting the air of the smoke-filled back rooms are astute observers.

This is exactly the kind of unconventional and unorthadox tactics the Clinton's would dream up to get Kerry out without damaging the party's image (as they perceive it).

Hillary would be nominated overwhelmingly on a second ballot by the Demosocialists.

She would lose overwhelmingly against Bush.


Reply 114 - Posted by: booshkindoggin, 5/21/2004 5:51:27 PM

Doesn't matter - Dubya wins in a walk regardless since the more money Kerry spends through lie/cheat/steal, the more it stimulates the economy.


Reply 119 - Posted by: mamateach, 5/21/2004 6:07:33 PM

All about the money honey.
Kerry's buck stops sooner. Since Bush will accept the nomination 5+ weeks AFTER Kerry's convention coronation, BUSH has 5+ more weeks to pass go and collect however much he can.
Sounded like lunacy upon first impact, but either Kerry or his puppeteer is dumb like a fox on this matter!

How can anyone want a world-class liar and manipulator like this in the White House? He's beginning to make even BJ sound like a piker.

As if it's not manipulative to have their convention so close to 9/11 that they passed the deadline for appearing on the ballots in some states!

Will the networks cover it later?

But he'll be able to continue raising money... He can accept anytime he wants... :)

:-)

nt

that he wouldn't accept the nominations until after the convention for that reason.

The way you have it written sounds like he won't accept the nomination... ever. :shrug:

"The Repubs were quite clever in their move but Kerry was brilliant in countering that he would not accept nomination until later."

which is why I wrote what I did.

:)

*Miss Grammar steps off soapbox*

:-)

It's a bunch of political BS for the sake of money. I have had quite enough of that from the current administration, thank you very much, and any financial gain he gets from this will be far ourweighed by the loss in esteem that it generates.

But leave the Repubs 5 weeks of unopposed fundraising time? How much could they get in 5 weeks? Many Democrats recall that this was done to Dukakis and they destroyed him with their ads...

He can royaly tease us at the podium...

Like after all the nominations are in..

and the roar of the crowd becomes deafening...

he and the VP nominee (Clark I hope) just stand

there grinning...and say, "Well, we'll have to think

about this. Do you really want us?...ending with:

"We'll let you know!"

<roar of applause!>

Anything that cause the Pugs grief..I'm ALL for it!


not meaning to highjack this thread...

But so funny the different reactions..from the weak and the strong!

here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=572316&mesg_id=572316

$50-70 million?
Why would anyone show up to the Convention if this guy won't?

He will just delay accepting the nomination..
for 4 or 5 more weeks giving him time to equal
the repubs warchest...

If he simply doesn't say "I except your nomination" does that let him still raise the money?

I think this is a great idea.

The repugs can't scream about it, since they are doing the same thing by having the convention so late.

If they DO, then the fact that all the states had to change the rules to put Bush on the ballot can be brought up.

dont think i have seen him so ugly and spitting out spew as mucha s today on crossfire. ooooosh he was mad. everyone knew bushie boy was cheating on this one, just another he got away with. good for kerry

then the repugs call kerry another flip flopping and how the democrats will just see him as foolish

wrong

see him as cool and kick ass

For every point they try and bring up, we have the ammo to respond.

1. Thug convention in Sept in NYC:

a. Exploiting 9/11
b. Late date of convention caused states to bend rules for * to get on ballots.
c. Took advantage of the fund raising issue ..... oppps that's what their crying about w/ Kerry.

It's a no win situation for them.


KKKar just shit his pants.

does feel good doesnt it.

i get more often these feels with kerry than i did with gore. and not putting gore down. i beleive he was so much between a rock and a hard place. clinton and rove.

but with kerry inevitably i get these little feels of joy

why can't or don't they just postpone the convention till a later date? :shrug:

Kerry needs to introduce himself to Americans who aren't familiar with him ASAP.

But he doesn't want the $75 million in public money he'll get spread out over 4 months while the $75 million Bush gets is spread out over 2 months.

Having the Convention next month but delaying official acceptance of the nomination would be the best of both worlds.

really stickin' it to 'em! thanks, eric :hi:

nt

Have to Be planned several years in advance. The timing of a large convention can't be changed at this date.

i haven't planned one of those in years :silly:

is a GENIUS! Man are the repukes pissed off! Tucker Carlson tried to accuse Kerry of not following the Campaign Finance Laws. Waaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaah! :cry: I love listening to them whine about this. It gives me great pleasure. It was a perfect move on Kerry's part! Blindsided the repukes....that's for sure! It's a good thing. ;)

The VP would still have to be nominated at the Convention.

I think we are on new ground here.

and he should do it.

Bush is spending his money like crazy and still has not made a significant advance in the polls.

He is spending the money on attack ads toward Kerry, which belies a certain amount of fear an incumbant really should not, by an intents and purposes, need to do at all.

Kerry raked in more money in April than Bush did.

Could it be that all of these luncheons and all of these appearances by the frumpy, wrinkled, lazy and cross eyed due to a bad eye lift,joker smiling, Laura, do not approach the money making contributions of Kerry?\

Even with the addition of the two sullen looking, fashion conscious bereft, Bush, flaunting of drinking laws, daughters who spent their college breaks in some exotic European resort where they were allowed to drink themselves into the white cliffs of Dover--or off the same.

Hope so. Hope that Bush's supporters are backing off with their checkbooks stuck in their back pocket.

Have the DNC, Kerry and VP can make speeches "introducing themselves" and saying everything except " I accept the nominaition to be the Democratic canidate for office". Then keep up with the republicans in spending over the next 5 months.

THEN, as soon as possible after Shrubapalooza is finished, deliver a great acceptance speach countering chimpy's speech point for point to try and take some bounce away from shrub.

I hope he does it. Simple because the Repubs thought they were slick in holding their convention so late..

he will be hammered by the media for doing this. In addition Boston is in an absolute tizzy right now in regards to the transportation situation on convention week. If you think he's gonna be able to hold this convention and NOT accept the nom you're crazy. He would lose MA if he did that - and I'm only half kidding.

Most seem to be saying that Kerry is smart for doing this. Perhaps you're not giving the public enough credit where it's due. :shrug:

for me personally, this is the smartest thing Kerry has done yet.
Good for him and his staff.

on MSNBC

From PoliticGeek of the Daily Kos:

... I hereby declare, that I am going to accept the Democratic nomination for President this fall..." Excellent.
File the paperwork simultanously with the GOP convention. Two news stories the same day. :)



by PoliticGeek Pro on Fri May 21st, 2004 at 16:42:48 EDT