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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:15 PM
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John Kerry, do you know what BBV is all about?
Edited on Fri May-21-04 09:18 PM by TruthIsAll
Take your head out of the sand. Are you in denial? Are you technologically challenged?

You are leading now. You will be leading on election day. You will get the most votes. Like Gore did. But you will never count them in Cyberspace.

What are you waiting for? Do we have to remind you every week or so? Or must we bang you over the head every day?

You can't lose. And that's exactly why you will.

Because BushCo knows the only way to beat you..is to cheat you.

Get used to this. We will bang you over the head every day until you do something about it. Like a press conference, maybe?

TIA
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:18 PM
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1. Who knows why he isn't coming out swinging for election standards and
Edited on Fri May-21-04 09:20 PM by GreenPartyVoter
reforms.

Maybe he is afraid of being tagged a "whiner" because he couldn't get over the Florida recount. (I hear that one from a lot of people whenever I mention BBV. :eyes:)
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:20 PM
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4. The Florida recount showed the willingness of Republicans to cheat.
The Florida recount showed the willingness of Republicans to cheat.

The Bush Campaign asked for overseas soldiers to send in ballots AFTER the elections were over.

Katherine Harris told precincts to count ballots postmarked AFTER the election.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:21 PM
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5. Yes, indeed. So why aren't the dems charging them with this?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:23 PM
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8. Do you mean rhetorically or legally? nt
nt
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:26 PM
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9. Both would be great, but I'd settle for number one for now.
Can't really make legal maneuvers without a truckload of solid evidence.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:31 PM
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11. Al Franken wrote about it in "Lies and the Lying Liars," but
Al Franken wrote about it in "Lies and the Lying Liars," but I don't know of any elected Democrats condemning Congresswoman Katherine Harris for her memo to count ballots sent AFTER the election was over (when she was Florida Secretary of State and before she was rewarded for her crime with a Congressional seat).
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:19 PM
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2. Please ask Kerry to cosponsor The Voter Confidence Act
Monday to Friday:

Please ask Kerry to cosponsor The Voter Confidence Act, bill number S.1980, to protect the accuracy of the 2004 election.

Phone 1-800-839-5276 (Capitol Hill Switchboard), ask to be transferred to John Kerry's office.

sample phone words:

Hello, may I speak to the office of Senator John Kerry?
(call transferred)
Hello, I'd like to leave a message for the Senator to please cosponsor the Voter Confidence Act, S.1980, to protect the accuracy of elections.

http://www.moveleft.com/moveleft_voter_conf_act_cosponsor_and_not.html
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:20 PM
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3. Actually I know he and Dean discussed it at length.
They have a plan, but we are not privy just yet.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:22 PM
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6. If this is going to pass the Senate, no time like the present for
If this is going to pass the Senate, no time like the present for John Kerry and every other Democratic Senator to cosponsor, plus a few moderate Republicans.

Please visit my webpage on the US Senate and "The Voter Confidence Act:"

http://www.moveleft.com/moveleft_voter_conf_act_cosponsor_and_not.html
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:22 PM
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7. without the passage of HR 2239 & S1980. . .
Kerry will have to win by 30% to actually win. Does this matter to anyone. . . ? Never mind the redistricting issues or how so many Blacks have been most unceremoniously kicked off their god given voter elilgibility. Oh don't get me started!
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:27 PM
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10. Both bills got one new cosponsor this week.
Edited on Fri May-21-04 09:33 PM by Eric J in MN
For people unfamiliar, "The Voter Confidence Act" to require electronic voting machines to print paper ballots is bill number:
HR.2239 in the House.
S.1980 in the Senate.

Both "Voter Confidence Act" bills got one new cosponsor this week.

Rep. Jim Davis (D-FL) became a cosposor of HR.2239.

Senator Mark Dayton (D-MN) became a cosponor of S.1980.


There are now 141 House cosponsors and 5 Senate cosponsors.

For more on Senate cosponors, visit:
http://www.moveleft.com/moveleft_voter_conf_act_cosponsor_and_not.html
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:42 PM
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13. we should all really start pestering. . .
Congressman Robert Ney (R) who is blocking this bill from coming to the floor, who just happens to be a crony of Walden O'Dell the CEO of Diebold and a Bush "Pioneer", who also happens to be the representative of O'Dell's district.

Ughhhhhh. I just can't stand it. I've sent him so many missives to him that I'm sure he has me "on ignore." So anybody that's bored please try. Sorry no link. Just Google U.S. Congress and you'll find him. Rottsa Ruck.
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:54 PM
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14. There Could Be A Blockage In The Senate Too
Mitch McConnel and Chris Dodd are on the committee overseeing the Senate bill. Both are senate authors of HAVA and both signed a letter, along with Ney and Hoyer, condemning paper ballots.

And Dodd and Hoyer are Democrats.

Wonder if that's who Kerry is listening to.

And if Dean and Kerry have a plan, it would be nice to share because, boy could we ever set them up with a network.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 11:30 PM
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18. A willing network at that...
Hell, if he did I might even donate to his campaign.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:35 PM
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12. "Quit crying in your teacups."
:hi:
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:57 PM
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15. Tee hee
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 11:13 PM
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16. I heard Dean say that Kerry planned to have legal teams in Florida.
He said they had talked about it, and that Kerry planned to have people on the ground here.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 11:28 PM
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17. Any state that has it should be considered red
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 11:33 PM
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19. Washington State is a RNC "battleground"
we have Diebold (optiscasn), Sequoia (Touch Screen), Hart Intercivic (Touch Screen)...the triumvirate of evil.
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