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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 08:56 PM
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Media says: We Americans are suffering "news burnout" and ratings down...
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 09:23 PM by KoKo01
They say we are tired and this Summer's news stories just aren't as good as last years. Only the killing of Oday and Kusay got ratings up and that only lasted a day......Poor media.....what can they do? They had their war and it just seems the only folks who are really "news jocks" today watch Faux and NBC.......how will the others ever survive...poor media.

The article is a "must read" for total "hypocracy.....rolling on the floor and gasping for breath hypocracy."


EXCERPT:

Some news executives said that many viewers may see this summer as nothing more than the end of the big Iraq story that they
so eagerly watched in the spring. Others said this summer's more serious-seeming news events were, in fact, less compelling than
those of last summer: the disappearance of 14-year-old Elizabeth Smart from her Utah home; the abduction and killing of
5-year-old Samantha Runnion in California; the rescue of nine miners from a Pennsylvania coal shaft; the fatal shooting of two
people at the Los Angeles International Airport and the killing of the gunman by an El Al security guard.

Among the top news stories this summer, "none of these have the broad appeal and emotional tug that a Samantha Runnion,
Elizabeth Smart, the miner rescue or the airport shootings had at that time," said Jack Wakshlag, head of research for the Turner
Broadcasting System, which manages CNN for their parent company, AOL Time Warner Inc.

CNN's highest-rated day during June and July last year, for example, was July 27, when an average audience of about 1 million
people tuned in to learn about the rescue of the coal miners, according to Mr. Wakshlag's Nielsen Media Research data.

This summer, CNN's most-watched day during the comparable two-month period was July 22, when an average audience of
about 650,000 tuned in for news about the United States military's killing of Uday and Qusay Hussein.

Link:http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/11/business/media/11EYES.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5062&en=ec09a1d84a5bac3c&ex=1061179200&partner=GOOGLE
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:04 PM
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1. Link?
I'm dying to read this!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:23 PM
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8. Sorry, here's the link and just added it to post: Worth the read!
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:06 PM
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2. We're burned out on LIES...not the 'news'...
...because what passes for journalism these days can't be called news.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:08 PM
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3. they should tell that to the bbc
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 09:11 PM by bpilgrim
aren't they seeing a SURGE in their american viewers...

The Failure of U.S. Journalism

Silence of the Lambs:
The Failure of U.S. Journalism

By Greg Palast <gregory.palast@guardian.co.uk>

Here's how the president of the United States was elected: In the months
leading up to the November balloting, Florida Governor Jeb Bush and his
Secretary of State, Katherine Harris, ordered local elections supervisors to
purge 64,000 voters from voter lists on the grounds that they were felons
who were not entitled to vote in Florida. As it turns out, these voters
weren't felons, or at least, only a very few were. However, the voters on
this "scrub list" were, notably, African-American (about 54 percent), while
most of the others wrongly barred from voting were white and Hispanic
Democrats.

Beginning in November, this extraordinary news ran, as it should, on Page 1
of the country's leading paper. Unfortunately, it was in the wrong country:
Britain. In the United States, it ran on page zero -- that is, the story was
not covered on the news pages. The theft of the presidential race in Florida
also was given big television network coverage. But again, it was on the
wrong continent: on BBC television, London.

Was this some off-the-wall story that the Brits misreported? A lawyer for
the U.S. Civil Rights Commission called it the first hard evidence of a
systematic attempt to disenfranchise black voters; the commission held
dramatic hearings on the evidence. While the story was absent from America's
news pages (except, I grant, a story in the Orlando Sentinel and another on
C-Span), columnists for The New York Times, Boston Globe and Washington Post
cited the story after seeing a U.S. version on the Internet magazine
Salon.com. As the reporter on the story for Britain's Guardian newspaper
(and its Sunday edition, The Observer) and for BBC television, I was
interviewed on several American radio programs, generally "alternative"
stations on the left side of the dial.

Interviewers invariably asked the same two questions, "Why was this story
uncovered by a British reporter?" And, "Why was it published in and
broadcast from Europe?"

http://projects.is.asu.edu/pipermail/hpn/2001-May/003879.html

peace
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:50 PM
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17. A Good read and reminder b. Pilgrim. I like to think ratings are down
because "Inquiring Minds" are reading newspapers on the Internet listening to streaming BBC or Canadian Broadcasting and maybe Mike Malloy and others, or have bought shortwave radios so they can get the BBC and other news.

They are so dumb they are like Bush.....they just keep believing that everyone is tuned to them no matter what the stats show.....and they can make enough off low priced ads to keep afloat....but for how long? With those poor ratings?

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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:14 PM
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4. I wonder if it will ever
come to them that most of us who really watch the news would rather hear facts and decide for ourselves than be spoonfed opinions by the corporate media? You don't suppose this is the first step in saying that we don't really need to know anything and they are all going to go to entertainment 24/7?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:31 PM
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11. Nah.
Nope.
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stevebreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:14 PM
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5. maybe if they put news on the news?
Just a thought.
:kick:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:16 PM
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6. Duh, may they turn on Bu$h any moment.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 06:27 PM
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24. Kick.......so we know they aren't as important as they think!
:kick:
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:17 PM
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7. Gee they should read their mail.
Then maybe they'd know that most of us don't watch them anymore with the exception of one or two shows because they don't show the news, display any journalistic ethics and have become one long commercial for the right wing of tabloid distraction stories.
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:29 PM
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9. ActualLy Americans are suffering from a rare and little known affliction
called....

"MEDIA WHORES YOU SUCK, YOU JADED BUSH ADMIN LOVING FREAKS. YOU GIVe THIS EVIL ADMINSTRATION INFINITE GET OUTTA JAIL FREE CARDS WHILE YOU HAVE YOUR COLLECTIVE MEDIA HEADS UP YOU ASS"-nia-itis.

It is very painful and pretty bad for you. It strikes mostly level headed Democrats and moderate Republicans.
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:30 PM
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10. tell you why I'm
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 09:32 PM by Mel
not watching them anymore.... Their Lies, Propaganda, Fear Mongering, and Corporatism. They aren't worthy of my watching them they can forget it that's one freedom they can't take away from me they can't force me to watch! I won't give one inch too them if they think I will watch they know they can continue on with their distortion of the news.

I have unplugged myself! As heard earlier today by Aaron McGruder, his job is to unplug as many people as he can. It's on all of us to fix this mess no one is going to do it for us!

I say bwahhha haa! to these idiotic so called EXecutives who are trying to tell me what I think or why I do or don't watch them they are crazy and not worthy of their titles or paychecks. They do not live in the 'real world' they are still plugged in.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:34 PM
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12. "News burnout?!?"
No. What we're suffering from is "Bullshit Burnout". I'm tired of being told by our "liberal media" (aaahahahahahahaha) what I should think about everything. More importantly, I'm tired of being steered away from issues that should matter, and instead, being fed a steady diet of tabloid-esque shit that has no impact on our society.

Of course, I could be jaded...

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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:38 PM
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13. US Media = The Matrix
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 09:39 PM by stopbush
:)

BTW - I love the chart above. For all of the pissing and moaning we Dems do about the "influence" of Faux Gnus on the American public, it's nice to see how FEW viewers they actually attract. I mean, really, an average of 1.3 million viewers in a country of 280 million!!

Yet, the BIG media corps want to be MORE like Faux! Go figure. I guess they want to lose even more viewers (oops...they already ARE losing more viewers).
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:59 PM
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14. Maybe because everyone with
a brain has stopped watching in disgust. The pravda press has become the propaganda and diversion arm of the extreme right and people with more than two brain cells do not give a crap about the fluff they push in order to keep the TRUTH off the screen. I hope they all go under and maybe some version of a real free media will return.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:32 PM
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15. That was exactly what I thought as I read the article! I wanted to yell..
"What the Hell is wrong with you folks!.....Don't you see why you are losing viewers? You are pandering to the Fox crowd instead of the folks who have tuned you out!!!"

They are clueless or driven by the same failed business sense that Cheney/ Bush and most in their administration have......they don't know how to run a damned business.


They have lost their way and the RW stepped right in. They better wake up soon, because with those lousy ratings some cables are going to be having tough times soon when their parent companies have to make more cuts because of the Loser Bush economy. Time Warner will have to spin off AOL, NBC can't carry two cables if their GE Capitol Mortgage starts to slide if interests rates tick up....and Faux can just sit there drooling over the RW as they start to go down the tubes all they want. But, viewing audience just can't support four cable networks showing the same thing all the time, chasing the same stories. (I'm inluding CNBC in the bunch because they are morphing into info-news-entertainment).
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SideshowScott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:46 PM
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16. Oh is that it..It cant be that the press is nothing but Bush propaganda?
and we think the freepers are in Denial..LOL Why would anyone want to watch the news when they dont investagate and ignore anything bush does remotely crooked. Do you want to watch a bunch of people who dont do thire jobs?.Watching a 24 hour we love Bush channel is rather boring i think
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:09 PM
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18. Maybe If They Didn't Act Like Mouthpieces For The Guvmint
And actually followed up and cross-examined the whopper du jour offered by these assholes, we might actually be challenged intellectually enough to. . .

hey, is that Paradise Hotel on the teevee?

*drools*
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 02:27 AM
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19. Oh yes!
"none of these have the broad appeal and emotional tug that a Samantha Runnion,
Elizabeth Smart, the miner rescue or the airport shootings had at that time,"

Nothing tugs at my heart strings like a good airport shooting. Give me a freakin break. These people are sick fucks.
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 07:08 AM
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20. Kick, cause I find
it amusing how little sway the corporate networks really seem to have on the People. Seems like most have tuned out since the selection and find more credibility on "Who wants to marry my Dad" than they do the sewage being passed off as "news". Seems the radio hatemongers and network whores are only preaching to the choir now, I only wish more people had access and the ambition to find the truth on the internet.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 07:13 AM
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21. The scary thing about this
is fox has continued to climb

Which means that people dont want to hear about how they have been used.

Doesnt it?

Only this summer has the news started to turn sour to the administration everywhere except fox

Doesnt that say that people dont want to know whats really going on?
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 07:42 AM
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22. News Burnout, My Ass!
Edited on Tue Aug-12-03 07:43 AM by dbt
For openers, there would have to be some actual news presented on Murkin TV for there to be any "news burnout."

In the second place, this August is by no means a "slow news" period--except when you consider that the Media Borg is keeping the real news off the air.

Case in point: When it appeared that a President was lying about something back in 1998, it was "news" for two fucking years! Once again, it appears that a President (sic) is lying about something.

Why is the Presidential Lying not news this time--UNLESS THE MEDIA IS INDEED COVERING FOR bu$h?!?!?!?

(Hell, people just LOVE crime-and-corruption stories and CNN has the past ratings to prove it!)

Kill your TV before it kills you,
:argh:
dbt
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 07:46 AM
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23. fed2dneck to the media: if you want better ratings....
....then start reporting the freakin' facts, no matter how embarrassingly true they may be to the misadministration and/or you parent companies!!! Americans are tired of the relentlessly nonstop pro-Bush, anti-Democratic propaganda you try to pass off as "news."

The American people are not as stupid as the presstitutes think they are.

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