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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:42 AM
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Carlyle Group? Who are they?
I saw couple of mentions on them here at DU.

Who are they, who owns them?
thanks!
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:50 AM
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1. I've often wondered...my highschool/college sweetheart who is a Zionist..
...worked for them (I think still does?) after a successful career as a financial stockbroker....In highschool/college was so sweet and then over the years became someone I didn't even know...very self-absorbed, everything about money and fame and power. Last time I saw him, he was running around Georgetown with lots of young girls in their early 20's because he has so much money....he seemed so unhappy yet didn't seem to care about anything...I'd be really curious if I "got in touch" to find out what Carlyle does and what he "does"....
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:54 AM
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3. Here ya go
http://www.hereinreality.com/carlyle.html

Be sure and watch the video. It pretty much lays everything out. They'll be covered in Michael Moore's film Fahrenheit 911 also, as well as Halliburton and other shady dealings.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:22 AM
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9. Wow! Now I know what he sold his soul for!
Thanks for the info...even though I didn't start this thread, its an interesting topic I've wondered about....My ex who went to Wharton/Penn and Harvard with me is an empty soul of a person now - and now I know what he does....scary...It justs shows you that even sweet kids growing up can get sucked into this madness...
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corriger Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:24 AM
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10. I certainly hope that you do not say this merely
based upon previewing some video.
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corriger Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:30 AM
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12. Ps. what I mean is that your friend is your personal
business but frankly this is a very complicated topic (coming back towards the the original posters vague request for whom Carlyle Group is).
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corriger Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:59 AM
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7. here you go
http://isuisse.ifrance.com/stopcarlyle/salariesgenoyer.htm


one of these firms is my former employer.
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corriger Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:17 AM
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8. and here to start
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:52 AM
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2. Here's a few URLS to get you started.
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DustMolecule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:54 AM
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4. This is a Dutch Documentary on the Carlyle Group
It has been widely broadcast (except in the USA, of course). It has been available to Amerca on the internet for quite a while though. It will tell you all you want to know. (I HOPE you have broadband). If not, please msg or post because there are other links to refer you to. But this is the best and the fastest way.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3199.htm
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:55 AM
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5. And a another one
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:57 AM
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6. Go out to your local library
or independent book store and pick up a copy of "The Iron Triangle" by dan Briody, it'a all about Carlyle.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:27 AM
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11. Oscar:"u threw articles/links, all i want is a fast answer"
Edited on Sat May-22-04 01:35 AM by oscar111
Thanks all, but really , all i want is a fast thumbnail answer.

BTW, this points up a LW flaw: the RW shoots facts to independents in a short sentence, converting them. The LW throws articles and books and links at folks, who have no time to pursue them. We LW's are so saturated with 60 minute college lectures, we have a subculture now... we think the whole world is able to sit 60 minutes listening or reading , to dig out our key facts. They are overworked. They have not the time. Please prune your efforts to them, to key facts and fast ones. Never throw an article.

Again thanks. I just went to here in reality... still murky. Is Carlyle a mutual fund? Is it an overgrown Cmtee on Foreign Affairs? Is it a parallel copy of Bildeburg?
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toddzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:32 AM
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13. do both.
the world isn't a sound bite, and until we realize that knowledge cannot be gained in 4 minute "news" blurbs, we will always be stuck in this world situation.
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corriger Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:51 AM
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21. this is all I say
'there is no quick answer'

and leave it at that.
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corriger Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:33 AM
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14. there is no quick answer
Edited on Sat May-22-04 01:36 AM by corriger
what do you wish to hear? For me it is neither left or right.

I was employed in one of the nexus of this sector. What politic do you wish to throw at it?
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:38 AM
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16. thanks to todzilla..
Edited on Sat May-22-04 01:55 AM by oscar111

Wish to know ; is it like overgrown Cmte on Foreign Affairs.. rockefellr... or like a mutual fund ... or a smaller Bildeberg?

Plus, the top one or two companies, if that is the set-up... and who is the top dog.
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corriger Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:39 AM
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17. oh god man
we posted at the same time
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corriger Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:41 AM
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18. honestly
there is a 'top dog' but there is no single 'top dog'. It depends upon just how you define a 'top dog' to be. To not be any more vague than your original question, it is all of these things you mention.
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corriger Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:38 AM
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15. frankly asking these basal questions
Is Carlyle a mutual fund? Is it an overgrown Cmtee on Foreign Affairs? Is it a parallel copy of Bildeburg?

You have quite a bit more homework to be doing. Not trying to be difficult with you either.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:42 AM
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19. so how WILL you reach the harried millions?
Most working stiffs just dont have the time for the "homework" or 'getting of knowledge" you last two recommend.

If you know the answer, distill it. I do it all the time for others.
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corriger Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:45 AM
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20. look
there are some things which just are not 'distilled'
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 02:00 AM
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22. Conglomerate
to others who want an answer:

it is a conglomerate, that has very big money owners from all over the globe, was founded by pres. carter aide, and the biggest co. is United Defense of VA.

Just distilled that. Now why cant we all do that? Why the snobbery? Why the semi-flaming? So unnecessary. Just copy the mature posters and take a helpful attitide.
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corriger Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 02:02 AM
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23. ah shit man
Edited on Sat May-22-04 02:13 AM by corriger
because it is not 'text book'

and to copy: 'BTW, this points up a LW flaw: the RW shoots facts to independents in a short sentence, converting them. The LW throws articles and books and links at folks, who have no time to pursue them. We LW's are so saturated with 60 minute college lectures, we have a subculture now... we think the whole world is able to sit 60 minutes listening or reading , to dig out our key facts. They are overworked. They have not the time. Please prune your efforts to them, to key facts and fast ones. Never throw an article.
' where does this fit?

and look there are no 'single' (or larger!) owners at this level man. See? This is the point of accountability.
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corriger Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 02:21 AM
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24. so
really, 'Just distilled that. Now why cant we all do that? Why the snobbery? Why the semi-flaming? So unnecessary. Just copy the mature posters and take a helpful attitide.' you have 'distilled' nothing. And there has been none of what you mention. Honestly if you are this interested why so basal a question? Sorry, perhaps my frame of reference. Still...

Cheers,
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 02:42 AM
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25. "...all i want is a fast thumbnail answer."
Sesame Street strikes again!

B.C.C.I. for Dummies...

:SIGH: The quick cut programming has done us all a great disservice.
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corriger Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 03:10 AM
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26. why waste the time...
Edited on Sat May-22-04 03:22 AM by corriger
but there are many documents regarding BCCI avaliable. If you wish later today I will try to find BCCI for dummies as I know it.

Cheers,
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corriger Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 03:13 AM
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28. right too
god I am laughing a bit.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 03:13 AM
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27. read "The Iron Triangle" by Dan Briody
it's an easy read and it cuts into the Carlyle Group deeply.

The Carlyle Group is an example of why the corporate charter system was neccesary.
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