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Against ME Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:14 PM
Original message
For all the chest pounding, leg slapping, head knocking sexist DU women.
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 11:16 PM by Against ME
You can say what you want, but we will not back down. You can twist our words into whatever you want, but we will not back down. We will keep on standing up for injustices, and fighting unjust laws. We will keep speaking our minds in spite of your idol threats, and blatant attacks. We will continue to clearify our position, so you cannot twist anymore.
We will triumph over your pettiness, and who ever is in the right will be championed. We will no longer indulge your grandiose fantasies about what you think we're saying, but we will tell you what we actually are saying. It will no longer be tolerated, you cannot keep the honest guys down. You can knock us back with rogue phrases, but we will rise again with more passion, and fervor then you could ever imagine.

You got a problem with it? I don't care.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:17 PM
Response to Original message
1. Whoa
What the heck is this about?
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:19 PM
Response to Original message
2. What the heck
is THIS all about????
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:20 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Hey we made almost identical posts LOL
nt
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:20 PM
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3. bring it on!
at least until this thread is locked, which should be pretty soon. The mods have been good about discouraging gender wars.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #3
11. that's right: bring it on
for someone who thinks "doing her" is socially acceptable outside the locker room, i think we can more than handle anything you've got.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:22 PM
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5. Don't you mean idle instead of idol?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #5
12. Higgs has a spelling problem
and isn't too terribly original.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:28 PM
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:29 PM
Response to Reply #16
21. You admit to having registered on DU before as HiggsBoson? nt
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Against ME Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:32 PM
Response to Reply #21
26. I don't wanna play this game, but people trying to demonize me
seems to be a common theme lately. I guess they've ran out of ways to make me evil, so their manufacturing them now.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:35 PM
Response to Reply #26
33. your spelling is evil
and your grammar is demonic.
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:40 PM
Response to Reply #33
40. I agree
Don't ever post here again....only those
who can spell really well are allowed.

lol
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:50 PM
Response to Reply #26
59. Come on buddy...
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 11:51 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
I knew it was you all along and yeah...I'm not out to get you. Now, if you want to mock me and then claim our attacks are in the past...that's dirty pool...so there! :evilgrin:

Btw, you are young. I think it's important that you train yourself in constructs other than sexism for a few reasons..

1. If you run around DOING girls, one of these days they are gonna DO YOU BACK. I promise you won't like it since the two sexes have different interpretations of the word DO.

2. If you are here to debate and learn, then why take your lessons from some of the worst behaving males? Is that what you value in life?

3. Please, please, please.

They're= THEY ARE
Their= possesive
There= adverb, pronoun, noun, interjection and directive.

You were doing so good THERE for a while. Had the spelling in check and everything. Heck, I tolerate you just for the grammar lessons and I have a soft spot in my heart for rambunctious teens. I used to be one.
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:51 PM
Response to Reply #59
62. How "DO" you.....
know he is young?

Just wondering. Seriously.
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Against ME Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:53 PM
Response to Reply #59
66. "I'm not out to get you"
good to know.

I didn't play "dirty pool", and the only time I mocked you, if I did was when you went off on me for no reason.

Why does this post mean I'm taking lessons from the worst males? I said nothing degrading about anyone, and I conveyed a message, that I think every guy should agree with.

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #66
72. Sure you did
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 11:58 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
DO you really think going around in life being objectified in every situation is "petty"? Do you think it's fair that if I fuck around, I'm a slut and if you fuck around you should get a medal or something?


Last point. If you mean what you say and say what you mean...it's hard for people to twist. Maybe you are the source of the twisting because you don't know what you mean but you pretend you do.
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:58 PM
Response to Reply #72
75. We back on this?
Really??
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #66
73. See...here is
the problem.

".....and I conveyed a message....".

Damn, you were doing so well up until you said that.

Oh well.

lol
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:58 PM
Response to Reply #66
74. except of course
those that dont (including those on this very thread). Some GOT the point of the earlier posts and held it in context. Even if they didn't appreciate the word choice in the title. This message is only in response to the "I think every guy should agree with ". Absolutes are funny. They are rarely correct.
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:59 PM
Response to Reply #74
77. Damn.........
You are like me....you are everywhere!

:)
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 12:02 AM
Response to Reply #77
85. Nice to find when folks have something in common
:)
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:26 PM
Response to Reply #5
14. maybe his "idol" is patriarchy?
:shrug:
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:29 PM
Response to Reply #14
20. Or maybe he wants to worship all of us goddesses.
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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:42 PM
Response to Reply #5
45. Ruben Studdard and Kelly Clarkson should be SHOT!!!
Now THAT's an idol threat.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #45
48. rofl!
:-)
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Nambe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:22 PM
Response to Original message
6. Are you saying all DU ladies are sexist? Or just three of us?
How old are you? What does 'sexist' mean to you? You sound more than a little like a neo-con.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:33 PM
Response to Reply #6
29. psst...he's talking about those "feminazis"
:hurts:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:40 PM
Response to Reply #29
41. psssssst
about the "over emotional feminazis"... ;-)
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:46 PM
Response to Reply #41
52. yeah...this must be a hissy fit
i only have hersy fits :hi:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #52
68. I prefer guernseys (sp?) myself
ala man, don't have a cow man....
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binaryline Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 12:01 AM
Response to Reply #41
79. i think that you meant
"hysterical over emotional feminazis" :evilgrin:

note: i'm on yr side. just throwin' in another anti-feminist buzzword, is all. carry on...

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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:42 PM
Response to Reply #6
46. A Neo-con?
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 11:42 PM by mantis
Now we have to state our age before posting?

THAT is a new one.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:23 PM
Response to Original message
7. That would be "breast" pounding sexist women
you silly boy.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:28 PM
Response to Reply #7
18. oh, yeah
very true
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:53 PM
Response to Reply #7
65. Last time I pounded my breasts, the elasticity
knocked me into the last century. I won't be doing that anymore :evilfrown:
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 12:01 AM
Response to Reply #65
78. OK...ok.....
Go on.

Just kidding. lol
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:23 PM
Response to Original message
8. a tantrum
how cute.
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:38 PM
Response to Reply #8
38. Why exactly.......
Do you consider it a "tantrum"?
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:41 PM
Response to Reply #8
43. pssssssst
fair is fair... isn't this a "hissy fit"? Genderly neutral one, of course.
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #43
49. Sure.....
However, I DO remember many in support of
the previous.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:56 PM
Response to Reply #49
70. just wanting to use the same
terms - if the women have "hissy fits" as was applied in later thread (like this) after thread after thread - just thought we should use the same term for this outburst.
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Against ME Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 12:01 AM
Response to Reply #70
80. This really isn't a hissy fit, or an outburst,
I was just telling a few people that they're not going to get away with twisting my words, and attributing things to me that should not be.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:23 PM
Response to Original message
9. Chest pounding?
Seek help. You have some serious issues to resolve.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:24 PM
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10. Can we just pretend that Skinner has already locked this thread?
It will save him the effort.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:25 PM
Response to Original message
13. I'm missing something here
There must be more to this that brought this on. I feel like I just read a sentence that is missing the paragraph it came from. Whats the story??
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Against ME Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:29 PM
Response to Reply #13
22. Nothing really, just a bad case of people
twisting my words, and telling me I said stuff that I didn't. Then I saw a post like this about sexist guys, so I thought I'd make one about sexist women, because it goes both ways. But based on the response you'd be led to believe I was wrong.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:30 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. perhaps that was the reason before?
just curious if you're consistent.
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Against ME Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:35 PM
Response to Reply #23
31. What do you mean?
eom
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:32 PM
Response to Reply #22
27. you are wrong
and you sound like a 10 year old.

bet you're pretty proud of yourself, aren't ya?
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Against ME Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:33 PM
Response to Reply #27
30. I find it odd that you can tell me I'm wrong about people twisting my
Yeah, I am proud of myself, I've seen people post this kinda things about women, so It's time for people to see it goes both ways.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:36 PM
Response to Reply #30
35. oh, how manly of you
i almost feel like swooning....
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:37 PM
Response to Reply #30
36. Who said.....
You have the right to be proud of yourself?

Shit, we men need to get with the program.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:42 PM
Response to Reply #30
47. things like "doing her," perhaps?
should i remind you...again...of why thinking that way might be the cause of your confusion about the meaning of the word "no?" no one has to twist your words...you do fine all by yourself.
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:45 PM
Response to Reply #47
51. Nope.......
Must be missing the "big picture" still.

I know what "no" means....regardless of the posts
on DU.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:49 PM
Response to Reply #51
56. sorry, mantis...that was not for you
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 11:51 PM by noiretblu
:D that was in reply to AGAINST.
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:50 PM
Response to Reply #56
60. Hey.....
No problem!
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Against ME Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:49 PM
Response to Reply #47
57. You are turning a phrase
into a whole set of morals, and ideas. I've told everyone how I feel, and it is not how you say.
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:53 PM
Response to Reply #57
64. Don't you get it?
You CAN'T win. No....you can NOT.

You could be right...but you are not.

Why? Don't ask. But...but...DON'T ASK!

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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #57
69. actually...it really is the source of your confusion
and i have read many of your posts. you didn't seem very concerned about your partner, past, present or future, in any of them, honestly. this is just an observation...perhaps i missed something. as i said, it think this is the source of your confusion.
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Against ME Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:59 PM
Response to Reply #69
76. So lets get this striaght, you haven't read many of my posts?
And you still make such a severe judgement of me? And assume I'm confused about something?
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 12:02 AM
Response to Reply #69
81. was this in the
I keep going but she didn't fight me and then she says no but I get a few more strokes/pounds in and if she needs a few stitches its not really my fault and it certainly isn't rape post?

Yes these are my words. All mine. Salin's interpretation of a post on that thread- not even sure if this refers to the originator of the post that was of course worded differently than I worded it - but the main points are, I believe, accurately reflected within.
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Against ME Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #47
71. Or it is a phrase that has the same means as "fucking", and having sex wit
but you wish to find someway to discredit me, or something. Out of everything I've said you only have this phrase to prove that I'm confusing what No means?
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 12:05 AM
Response to Reply #71
86. "having sex WITH"...well that's an improvement
at least that acknowledges the other person existing as more than something to do. your words are not only reflect who you are...they shape how you think. in turn, that gets reflected in what you write. you can choose to write whatever you want because you can choose to think whatever you want, so if you chose "doing her" vs. having sex with someone...that in turn determines who others will respond to you, and what they will think of you, right or wrong.

so, i've found it best to say, think and write what i mean, vs. using shorthand that may or may not convey my intended meaning. in the context of discussion about rape, you set yourself up for acrimony by your choice of language...and that, my friend, is your choice.

and perhaps, if you want to discuss fucking, you can join those how do so regularly in the lounge.
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binaryline Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:40 PM
Response to Reply #22
42. it doesn't go both ways
but believe what you want. :shrug:
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:31 PM
Response to Reply #13
24. Please........
See the "nothingshocks...me something" post.

Not sure this post will help....but it does show
how foolish the FIRST post a while back sounded.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:38 PM
Response to Reply #24
37. I see how I missed this
I don't see threads posted by that member anymore.
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:41 PM
Response to Reply #37
44. lol
Oh come on!

The "arguments" are fun.

Gee, I hope I spelled "good".
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:47 PM
Response to Reply #37
54. It was one
intemperate perhaps in thread title, but in reaction to a series of thread over a couple of weeks. However in reaction there have been about eight or more counter threads such as this. All end up locked. I suspect this will reach the same point.
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:50 PM
Response to Reply #54
58. I hope not
We men need to "discuss our feelings more"...
right? So what do they do...lock the thread!

LOL.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:27 PM
Response to Original message
15. sounds like right-wingers trying to defend themselves
a lot of air and no substance
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:28 PM
Response to Original message
17. LOL
Should I stay out of THIS one??
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:29 PM
Response to Reply #17
19. Observe
and learn.

dp
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:32 PM
Response to Reply #19
28. Please
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 11:34 PM by mantis
Get don't get me started.
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Nambe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:31 PM
Response to Original message
25. This is a good chance to compliment the men of DU!!!!!
They are a great crowd of intelligent people IMO. My hat is off!!!
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:36 PM
Response to Reply #25
34. i second that...most of the men here
<present company excluded> like most of the women, are the best :loveya:
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Against ME Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:39 PM
Response to Reply #34
39. And Against ME takes a cheap shot to the kidney,
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:49 PM
Response to Reply #39
55. but one by choice
no doubt. For choosing to be the umpteenth counterthread originator.
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LauraK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:44 PM
Response to Reply #25
50. I second that Nambe! (almost) Everybody at the DU is great!
N and I do a lot of work and play together dealing with people and we have commented more than once on the civility of the people. If only I could get through a whole day dealing with only the quality of DUers.
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:47 PM
Response to Reply #50
53. Hey......
What is with the "almost"?
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Nambe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:52 PM
Response to Reply #50
63. I'm sure that was for AM's other kidney.
We have a very hard fight to win in our corner of the world. I hope AM is part of that fight. Hopefully he/she just wanted some attention.
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Against ME Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:54 PM
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67. Tell me, what is wrong with this post?
Does it offend you, or alienate you, or say anything wrong?
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:35 PM
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32. Oh boy.........
You better say you're sorry for posting that.

Trust me.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:51 PM
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61. Except that at the moment I think a twist on the old LOVE STORY adage
applies: being really really angry means: never thinking you have to say your sorry.

And of course this cuts in all directions.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 12:07 AM
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87. OK Mntis let me lay it out for ya
1. Aainst Me is a benned disruptor who has re-egistered under about 10 different names and admitted it on this thread.

2. There are references by me to MANY of his prior posts and incarnations in my speaking to him and his speaking to me, so you are walking in on the middle of one of those jokes you have to BE THERE to get.

3. Quinnox has me on ignore because my posts OFFEND him. Posting threads on qualifying when people accept the distinction RAPE versus CONSENT are upsetting to him. I figure if it's not a personal attack for him to freely post WHY he has me on ignore, then it's not a personal attack for me to state WHY. He sent me a nasty note about a thread I started on the subject of rape. It's not important to him and is offensive to him. Jeepers...sorry!

So I noticed you seemed a bit confused about the content of the thread. I just wanted t assist you in getting the various commmunications.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 12:02 AM
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82. Just who do YOU call 'we' here chump?
You don't speak for the honest men, just the wannabe boys to be 'men' with a grandiose impression of their own self worth.

you have a lot to learn.


dp
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 12:02 AM
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83. I'm locking this thread
It may be unlocked later after further discussion from the
Moderators .
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 12:02 AM
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84. Higgs Boson I can only say one thing in reply to your post
Download the Internet explore spell-check program from www.iespeller.com It does not have any spy-ware in it. One caveat,
if one does not know when to use "there" or "their" this will not help that--only hitting the old grade school English book will help that.
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