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Egalitarian Zetetic Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:21 AM
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Liberalism ReSurgent: A Response to the Right
has anyone else seen this site?
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/tenets.htm





Welcome to the web site that stands up for liberalism. More than ever before, opponents of liberalism are broadcasting pseudo-science, demagogic politics, crank economics, and think-tank propaganda in easily parrotted sound bites. This site is a gateway to an entire arsenal of liberal studies, statistics and state-of-the-art arguments that refute their myths. Form your own opinions from credible sources such as mainstream scholars and the National Academy of Sciences, and benefit from a more complete picture than you normally find on the mass market

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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:23 AM
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1. No, I haven't.
What do you think of it?
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Egalitarian Zetetic Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:27 AM
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3. I'm in awe, it seems to be more mainstream, without...
being overly slanted. Most of the time i prefer left wing sites, this seems to just present information, and its not a commercial site. I just wonder why i never heard of it, i have about 300 sites indexed. The owner is Steve Kanga i was curious if anyone knew of him
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:25 AM
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2. Yeah
If you've just discovered Kangas, look up his death. He purportedly committed suicide *cough* was killed *cough* in a restroom in the building containing the office of RM Scaife.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 10:03 AM
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5. Kangas = Kanga???
A search on Steve Kanga gives the LIberal sites.

Kangas gives the suicide.

Same person?
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 10:10 AM
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6. Same guy
Look at the credit at the top of the LI page. You guys are looking at a ghost ship. Kangas burned brightly, mightily for a while and got snuffed.
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Egalitarian Zetetic Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 04:42 PM
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7. This is definately intresting i must look more into it...

Who killed steve kangas?
http://www.psnw.com/~bashford/kang-ev0.html


Steve Kangas was found dead on the 39th floor of his enemy's doorstep at 11:30 PM on February 8 1999. In the bathroom of the offices of Richard Mellon Scaife, 2000 miles from home, -- in Pittsburgh PA. Shot (twice?) in the head. Due to obstructions of justice, local police investigating the wrong circumstances quickly ruled it a suicide. There are over 1000 heated Usenet posts on this topic, dated from eleven days after his death. How did he die?

Steve Kangas.
Ex army intelligence, a Doctoral Candidate at UC: Santa Cruz in economics and political studies. His book was almost completed, and was working with a publisher. Once president of the local chess club in Santa Cruz for several years. Net presence: 1600 Usenet posts found on DejaNews.com, a double award winning political Web site with over 300 html pages. His most popular page was on the Great Depression: 75,000 hits. The Web site was also a "one-stop-shop", -- an armory -- of liberal oriented arguments, facts, charts and tables to be used in debates against popular neo-conservative myths. (Yet while many liberals blame the great recession of '82-'83 on Reagan, Steve Kangas argued strongly that Reagan had nothing to do with it.) Above all, Steve Kangas was a truth-seeker. See his AboutMe.html.
In the jungle of Usenet political debates he was known for his calm reasonable arguments and facts, even when outrageously provoked. Few could touch him, and even now the rabidly attacking neo-conservative vultures on Usenet cannot present a credible, reasonable argument against his undefended Web site. "I don't like it", is the sum of their arguments before resorting to the ad hominem fallacy.

I've experienced a Web Warrior's death before, we knew the the dreaded death dance of the mean-spirited was coming, we try to get through it as best we can, but I think everybody feels dirtied by it, and by who we have to associate with. I'd like to thank those who manage to stick with it, and apologize to Steve's loved ones for not always meeting Steve's high standards in this mess.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:55 AM
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4. Wow!
I'm reading the FAQ, which is excellent.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 04:47 PM
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8. Yep, it's a great site. It's amazing how screwy his death was.
The location alone is enough to stir the imagination.
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 05:25 PM
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9. I've been trying to get people to do an updated version.
As a tribute to Steve Kangas. But to no avail.
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