When Farenheit 9/11 comes out, Bush* is toast.

People are going to be freaking outraged. I predict a landslide in November. This will be the first time a movie director has so strongly influenced the face of a general presidential election.

Wait for it.

He is going to be burnt toast! :)

I hope Moore and Kerry are smart about this.

There must be an IRON WALL between Kerry and Moore. We cannot leave even the slightest opening for any charge of coordination which would violate campaign finance restrictions.

Above that, the Repubs will claim collusion anyway but we can't give them the slightest bit of credibility on that issue.

Just my humble opinion.

...but any charges of collusion would quickly be thrown out when the timeline of that film got pointed out. Moore started working on it YEARS ago, long before Kerry announced his candidacy.

I think if any Bush partisans see this film, it'll just make them madder (and I mean in all senses of the word). Only people who are fence sitters and uninformed souls who vaguely "like" Bush will be swayed. It might be enough to topple the Bush gang if enough of them can be persuaded to see it.

30% of the US population is simply unreachable, having Bush idolatry and crackpot religion so closely bound together that nothing will budge them.

We all need to see it and spread it's information around. Kind of like a disease--we all go get infected, then infect our buddies so they go see it, and eventually the whole country will be sick (of President Bush!).

Maybe this isn't the best analogy.

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For those folks who have been totally out of touch with reality for the past three years it will be eye opening. These are probably swing voters or those who are politically unmotivated. This movie can only incent them to vote the Bushcons out come November.

the number of times we've all been convinced that the current hot scandal of the day was going to insure that Bush is toast. Well, as many times as we've seen Bush climb into the toaster he still hasn't come out toast. And he won't as long as the right-wing media keeps hiding the real news from the brain-washed masses.

* has weathered at least a dozen scandals big enough to have impeached Bill Clinton over. Right-wing media plus Repukes controlling Congress have gotten him a pass. (I should add also enough spineless Dems who want to "play nice".)

Bogus 2000 election should have done it.

Insider Harken trading should have done it.

Cheney's secret energy meetings should have done it.

And on and on... not to mention the ineptness leading up to 9/11! He should have been destroyed long ago. The right-wingers will do a good job downplaying the significance of Fahrenheit 9/11, or find one or two factual "reaches", and dismiss it outright.

Bush still plain white bread.

by the film.

Trust me, the conversation I had with my pastor's wife last night about how she is sick of seeing the Iraq prison atrocities and the way the liberal media is overblowing it tells me his hard-core supporters won't be watching this flick.

Or, they'll watch it and try to refute it. Like they have done with Moore's other work.

:eyes:

Reading to kids as the SECOND plane hits. Remember, at that point the country was already under attack and with all the warnings that summer they KNEW the first plane was a terror attack and yet he did nothing. Then the second plane hit and he STILL did nothing. That footage is in the film and all the reviews say how incredibly powerful that footage is. That is what is going to be the final nail (hopefully!) and his legacy. Remember, most of the country has never seen that footage.

instigatory documentaries on the subject of 9/11 from the major media networks. The most devestating attack on America and no one has touched this....why? No one would watch? Or because they can't do a documentary without showing the American public what Dimson was actually doing during the attack or why the defense was stood down.

This scene will shock the general American public when they see George's real performance on 9/11.

...I predict that there will be violence at some movie theaters when this film finally screens in the US. The freepers will surely show up at the theaters to stir up shit.

Evict people, post signs of warning, whatever. I do believe that there will be problems in some places, but hopefully not violence.

I hope you're right. You probably are. I tend to think in worst case scenarios. Especially with this being and election year and all.

I want them to disown me. That way, my future children won't have to listen to their ridiculous diatribes.

Any suggestions about how I might do this?

...Ray Bradbury's "Fahrenheit 451". Do they like science fiction?

Any others?

as a trade

I was somewhat down on Michael Moore before I watched that. I had read one of his books from years ago and didn't care all that much for it. But when I watched BFC, I thought it was very good and that even a lot of Republicans would agree with most of his points or at least find it of interest.

If they watched that one and found it interesting, maybe they might agree to go see this new one?

that I cannot abide.

I do love them, but this is like loving a violent alcoholic.

My Republican relatives have gone off the deep end. I believe they truly would accept Fascism.

Kevin is GOP and the book is great for republicans.

The appeal of the Repubs is that my p's think that they have a lot in common with the Repubs' "ideals."

And actually, I wanted advice on getting them to the movie, not simply to disown me. But that's a good one!

Seriously, though, I really am afraid that they will ooze their points of view into my kids' heads. No babysitting, that's for sure.

I can just see the administration grinding their hands and sweat stains start to build under their armpits. As millions of people sit down with a tub of buttered popcorn (me included) and proceed to get thoroughly disgusted. I can't wait.

And they're not scared? Just imagine the clip of Bush winking and nodding to someone right before he goes on National television (as he is about to declare war). I've heard that Moore is able to make him look like such a fool that you wonder how he can even tie his shoelaces.

Nobody can emerge from this movie and have any respect for Bush and his cronies.

I believe the movie is scheduled for a premiere on July 4th. Very fitting.

The 'mainstream' media will portray it is a radical attack on Bush using baseless, inflammatory charges (like Bill Hummer did this morning on CNN)

It is going to be HUGE here. I just heard that the good ol' USA is the last country in the WORLD to find a distributor for this film. :rolleyes:

I think it will be lucky to break into the top 10 for a week or two.

....it tends to do very well stateside. Some past winners include Pulp Fiction, The Pianist, Barton Fink, The Piano, Wild at Heart, Sex, Lies & Videotape, Paris Texas, Missing, Taxi Driver...and on and on.

Given the award and the "controversy" leading up to its premiere at Cannes, I think it'll do extremely well in theaters, relatively speaking. Look at the box office for Bowling for Columbine--that only won a jury prize at Cannes, and didn't have the news exposure that F911 has, and it was extremely successful.

F911 will be preaching to the choir. It will be painted as "liberal propaganda". I'm sure there will be right wing disruptions at many screenings to suppress turnout. Swing voters and Repugs will not see it to any large degree.