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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:16 PM
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How many points will Shrubya drop after this 'speech'??
2? 3? will he get below 40? or a bounce??
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:17 PM
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1. Not as many as the stock market will for the piehole effect
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:17 PM
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2. ... ahh, ok, that's that whistling noise...
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:18 PM
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3. Maybe not as many as you think, because
the only people who watch him are the ones who love him (and a few masochists).

The people capable of changing their opinions aren't paying attention.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:18 PM
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4. Here's Tomorrows Article
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGB7DBH8NUD.html
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:22 PM
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5. +5 for this week
But next week, unless there is some major Good News, look for a 7-10 point drop, down to 40-43%

--bkl
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:24 PM
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6. What really made me sick was all the
wild cheering and clapping like he was the second coming of Christ or something, instead of the worst president ever and the cause of more damage to this country, domestically and internationally, than ever before, and instead of the lying, ignorant, treasonous murderer he really is.
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sleepyhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:39 PM
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11. would you expect anything less
from the US *Army* *War* college? Probably forced to applaud under penalty of cout martial.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:46 PM
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12. Ain't gonna study war no more ...
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:53 PM
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17. Good point!
And it helped Shrub's handlers to perpetuate his illusion that the military just loves him and thinks everything is just hunky-dory, when nothing could be further from the truth.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:09 AM
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23. Actually, Army War College published study crticial of Bush
They're not the blind toads one might suspect from the name.

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A scathing new report published by the Army War College broadly criticizes the Bush administration's handling of the war on terrorism, accusing it of taking a detour into an "unnecessary" war in Iraq and pursuing an "unrealistic" quest against terrorism that may lead to U.S. wars with states that pose no serious threat.

The report, by Jeffrey Record, a visiting professor at the Air War College at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama, warns that as a result of those mistakes, the Army is "near the breaking point."

It recommends, among other things, scaling back the scope of the "global war on terrorism" and instead focusing on the narrower threat posed by the al Qaeda terrorist network.

"he global war on terrorism as currently defined and waged is dangerously indiscriminate and ambitious, and accordingly . . . its parameters should be readjusted," Record writes. Currently, he adds, the anti-terrorism campaign "is strategically unfocused, promises more than it can deliver, and threatens to dissipate U.S. military resources in an endless and hopeless search for absolute security."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A8435-2004Jan11?language=printer
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:24 PM
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7. I bet he will bounce about 6 points...
... nothing emboldens the faithful like hearing from their messiah.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:03 AM
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22. Agreed. Bounce 6.
Edited on Tue May-25-04 12:04 AM by HFishbine
Although my reasons might be that part of the population just wants to be reassured, and Bush sounded reassuring tonight. Up 6 by the end of the week, back up to around 47.
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bigendian Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:26 PM
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8. 4
minimum
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:30 PM
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9. El Zilcho
I predict a 4-5 point drop by next weekend. Wake up people, nobody is watching this speech. It's not on the Big 3 and Fox's entertainment channel isn't carrying it live either.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:33 PM
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10. I'm not sure he'll get a bounce
He said absolutely nothing new. BTW, I'll bet a lot of people aren't even watching. I just talked to my roommate's dad, who was listening to it on the radio, and he said it was pure BS.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:47 PM
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13. He'll lose three points on approval, dropping to 39
Kerry will widen the gap to beyond the margin of error.
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:48 PM
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14. Up 5. nt
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:53 PM
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15. Next poll = 39%. Bank on it.
Who wants to lay some toadskins down?
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:00 AM
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21. " Next poll = 39%" This is one I want a 30 per center then he's done

Rove can't save this sociopath if he falls into the 30% range.

They will have to resort to a phony Terrorist attack or something similar to boost his numbers & even then that's no guarantee.

I think the Bush Administration is going to go down to the largest electoral defeat in American History. IMO
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:50 PM
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16. Bush only got a bounce 3 times in 40 months...
This speech will do nothing for him.
A week from now, he will be where he is now or down a point.

He bounced up 36 points on 9/11.
Up 12 points when he invaded Iraq.
Up 6 points when Saddam was captured.
Every other month he declined.

He has fallen 12 points since December.
He is currently at an 11-point poll average of 44.6

Expect him to fall to 37% by Labor Day.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:56 PM
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18. no bounce, even or a drop, including "sympathy" vote. n/t
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:59 PM
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19. he said "it's going to get WORSE"
hardly inspiring.

down down down

TMHMOE strikes again.
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:18 PM
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20. Evangelicals will always support Bush so he'll never go below 40
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:17 AM
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24. Not so! The most hardcore of them are starting to say, "Stay home"!
I can't find the article--anyone?
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aldian159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:22 AM
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25. 40%
of Americans are evangelicals? damn
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