My God, EVERYONE Is Saying This Speech Sucked

I mean, EVERYONE. I've flipped around. Nobody thought it worked.

I've never seen nearly every channel be unanimous in its criticism of Bush. This is amazing.

BTW, I didn't watch Fox, because it's pretty much assured that they won't knock him.

I'm wondering if the media has really started calling them by name...

thanks!

Just focusing on Bush and how he basically failed to do the ONE THING people expected him to do. Namely, outline a plan and say how we're going to transfer power.

He said the what, who, where, when and why - but not the how. And of course, the how is the most important part.

discuss the differences between neocons and classical conservatives (i think that's what they called them). That wasn't tonight, though. I believe it was yesterday on CNN.

said it was "pretty good"

:-)

and if thats right than he and his opinion are "wholly without merit"

He just said we've already won because we've "dissembled" Iraq just like we "dissembled" the Taliban.

I wonder if anyone will have the guts to tell him he just said the US made a false show of Iraq just like it made a false show of the Taliban.

Hmmm....Freudian?

Just like all of the junta's supporters.

Without understanding its meaning?
Isn't he from your neighborhood, JackRabbit? (No attribution of blame, but perhaps you have a better chance of educating him than the rest of us do from afar.)

s_m

He is truly an idiot who will go down supporting these treasonous bastards. His only true love is money...money...money.

I'm watching the replay of Matthew's show right now. Hunter just said that Bush went into "much detail" about who we are handing the reins to on June 30th. Funny, I listened to the whole speech-I don't remember "much detail" about ANYTHING, let alone who takes over on July 1. What an ass.

than W, I guess!:D

Poor guy just really has trouble with these durned 50-dollar words!

That was profoundly disturbing.

:thumbsdown:

ooops

"one of our own" is no longer with us.
:cry:


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Too bad I missed that one.

Oh that fascist adrenaline rush has worn off, and the frat boys are realizing they have trashed their house.

Bush is going down!



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His tone was so disheartened--'sorry guys, we know it's all crap, but boy he really nailed it! Fantastic, 'twas! Oh how I hate to say it--curse you GWB, for your eloquence and profound elucidation of events, your masterful strategy, your speechifying prowess! Damn yooo!!!'

I think that's how it went,

of the speech. Well, that's my interpretation anyway. From that perspective, I fully understand his sardonic point.

Of course I could be wrong. ;)

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am I a suspected coconspirator, then?

v.o.r.

a low post count alone proves nothing, but in concert with freeper sentiment it is highly suspicious.

you're either under very good camoflague or sincere.

:)

call asscroft.....

love that sign...is it really up somewhere

The person in question was gauging it according to what the sheeple would think. That's not what a freeper would say.

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I read a few of his other posts. I'm not a longtimer, but let's try not to jump on people because of one post. If you think somebody's a mole, take two minutes and look up their posts with the search function.

I've alerted on several posters, but only after reading enough posts to be sure I should.

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in the fourth year of your presidency, any speech you give better have some serious substance to it to make an impact. This didn't.

Drum roll, please......................





















Joe Fucking Lieberman!!!

and where was he on?

....we should all boil live puppies and kitties and sacrifice a baby to Cthulu, Holy Joe would support it!

and coming from him, they can't say he's just "being partisan."

Is there a DU thread that kept up with his bushisms, canned speech? I was outside grilling!

Knowing that his poll numbers are so low made it much better for me. Weird.

I felt the same way! I actually COULD have watched the idiot without hurling. But then I opted for Colonial House and checking out DU here at work for the meat of the speech.

And he's been a world-class suck-up at times. Even he couldn't find much of anything good to say.

do tell

I don't remember exact wording except when he pleaded for bush to "lead." To call up the Nato people and ask for their help (Yeah, Right, like he's ever going to humble himself enough to admit he needs any help from anyone, anywhere) but adding that he doubted that'd happen. He said he can remember talking to some Nato people and asking them if their leaders would take a call from bush because it's the President of the United States and who wouldn't take a call from the President of the United States, and the response was lukewarm - that MAYBE they would, but time's running out on that. At times, Biden actually shook his head in dismay. He was clearly NOT impressed. And he's usually a simpering sycophant. Not this time.

This was on MSNBC (not CNN), by the way.

I've always admired Biden, and I think he's one of the smartest, and best-spoken, Senators. He's always struck me as what I think a leader, a statesmen, a politician, should look and sound like.

He truly disturbed me during the lead-up to the war, and I was so disappointed in his speeches at the time. It's good to see he's finally coming around; I've noticed it more and more in the past few weeks. We could use his voice right now... people always seem to want to listen to Biden.

I'm going to proceed cautiously with him, though. He doesn't get a pass from me on that pre-War Bush-lovin' of his.

Biden has been a real disappointment through most of this. FAR too quick to capitulate. FAR too quick to be one of the first always to say "well, the republi-CONS have a good idea but..." or "well, my opponent makes a good point..." ALWAYS too eager to sit up, panting and tail-wagging like they're gonna toss him some Snausages or something. NOW, for the first time in donkey's years, it appears he actually has straight negatives for bush.

He was NOT impressed at all. He just sat there and shook his head and begged for bush to show some leadership - which he all but admitted was just not there. He was VERY disappointed. Don't know what he was expecting, but whatever it was, bush came up way short.

Perhaps, however, it's BECAUSE Biden's been such a bend-over for bush that people HAVE listened to him - maybe as a "voice of reason" from the opposite side of the aisle. A guy who talks like he almost likes bush, so the neocons won't automatically rain fire and brimstone down on him. Well, he's breaking from the pack now. Which makes him a MOST intriguing barometer. Biden was one of the big ones for repeatedly giving bush the benefit of the doubt. Just over and over and over. I was disappointed in him, too, just as you were, especially when we needed our guys to stand up and show their backbones and he could really have been a leader, and he repeatedly balked.

So...what THAT tells me is that Biden's turned, which means the "moderates" among the Dems have turned. And the moderates among the republi-CONS are also no longer rushing to defend bush at all costs. Look at Chuck Hagel, for example. Biden seems to have come around. I guess just one too many smacks on the head with the proverbial two-by-four and something FINALLY sinks in. It's WAY late in coming, though. We've got one of those out here, too - Madame Feinstein. She, too, seems to be less reluctant to criticize bush, while trying to appear almost "presidential" about it. But criticize she does. Finally. Even if it's a little, it's an improvement over being a mindless rubber-stamp. They're no longer spineless. Which means they're no longer bobble-heads.

I only hope it stays that way.

I'm still having a hard time forgiving the yahoos on the dem side that believed all that horseshit and how they refused to listen to their constiuents who were clearly against the invasion.

Jeez. Sounds like we have a threat to national security on our hands. Call Asscroft.

He said that he had talked till he was blue in the face and the man won't listen. He said this was the last shot to get something right and it is not going to happen. Actually Biden was angry !

"There are difficult days ahead and the way forward may sometimes appear chaotic. Yet our coalition is strong. Our efforts are focused and unrelenting and no power of the enemy will stop Iraq's progress."

"Beyond the violence, a civil society is emerging,'' Bush said. "Terrorists will not determine the future of Iraq."

blah blah blah

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There is no comparison between the two, as far as elocution goes.

Maybe Big Dog can go abroad and help our sagging image and lost respect among the international community.

The more I miss Pres Clinton! I didn't watch the Chimp's spewage tonight! Why would I? Am guessing it was more of the same canned speech he has been giving since 9/11! Gawd, can we get a real President?!

rehearsal for lovely anti-bush songs is much more important

BUT... I heard one clip on Larry King:

IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE, MUCH WORSE BEFORE AND AFTER THE 'TRANSFER'

big surprise chimp! BIG surprise!!

I flipped over it while the other shows were having commercials and they had some Congerssman from New York swooning about Bush's "lyrical" and "poetic" speech, especially at the end (he said). The guy was coming buckets over it.

AND AND AND AND

He had the sheer unmitigated GALL to talk about how it was all related to 9/11!!!! How we sent our guys over there to die to protect the country because of 9/11!!!!!!!

UnbefuckingLIEVable

thought it was good and also stated that the "war was not political" nor is the handover.

Larry King cut off a gentleman who was angry and trying to ask a question.

What else should we expect? "Liberal" Media my ass!

They were all stone faced...reminded me of Stepford Wives (and husbands).


On the banner at the bottom of MSNBC after the speech it said

Pres Bush: Task in Iraq is to defeat enemy and give strength to a friend.

WTF????? I must have missed THAT sentence in his speech.

I sent MSNBC an e-mail. It's really time for our media to wake up to this man's lies or we are going to be stuck with this creep for another 4 years.

talk radio, Fox, and the print media.

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glad to hear it was a flop. Bush* sucks! Get 'em outta there!

It sucked a lot and it was a waste of time!

Why doesn't he wake up and smell real roses instead of those Four Roses in a bottle.

they would ever let him speak. Everytime he does he just makes more of an idiot out of himself. Maybe that's what they want, so they can dump him?

... has been reached. It's all downhill for Bush* now. The media is no longer afraid to criticize him, since the majority of Americans no longer support him.

and a good observation. The meekness of the press corp has been nothing short of astounding. They are passive and want to stay on bush's good side, for whatever reason. Now that the scales are tipping they are like hungry little scavengers out for the bits of flesh and blood bush is leaving behind . . .

I SWEAR I heard this bozo say "The occupation of Iraq will end on June 30th"

Please someone - a link to a transcript!!!

but it's way more fun to HEAR his various pronunciations of the jail!! Abu Gra-eeb, Grabe, Grub and best of all Gu-gur-gr-grib.

What a moran, my goodness, he tripped and fell over the name more than he did over his bike!!!!

But caught some of it on NPR. Darn applause sounded like the SOTU. Who the heck was giving all the accolades?
I can't stand to listen to him speak. He tries so hard to enunciate and then a pause after anything more than 2 syllables like he is waiting for a scooby snack. Attaboy, now go back to Crawford.
:boring:

The applause at these things is strictly ritualistic.

who seemed to think there wasn't a problem in the
world with that lie-laced puke fest.

Gawd, I'm really starting to dislike Herr Rose. :grr:

n/t

but I did flip to it during commercials

first - in defense of bush* --- they did replace the psychodelic tie... :evilgrin:

secondly -- both my partner and I were yelling "DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS! DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS!"