What would you do if Kerry choose Gephart as his Vice President?

I would not like it, but would vote for Kerry anyway.

My sense is that many Democrats left of center would not vote. Gephart sold his soul to bush on the Iraq war, and still has no remorse. Kerry said he was duped, but if he choose Gephart, I think he contradicts himself.

What would you do?

Really, what's the alternative?

to independent.

And vote for him myself, of course. :)

they should choose someone that has the potential to take over the presidency. I think a potential Gephart presidency would be disaster...

I have VP preferences, but I would vote for Kerry EVEN if he choose Howard Dean

if he'll make Howard Dean his running mate.

n/t

With all due respect, my disgust over Clinton (the perjury, not the sex) prevented me from voting for Gore in 2000 -- and frankly I took some pleasure at Gore's ultimate defeat.

And Bush didn't seem that bad: he'd gotten along with a Democrat legislature in Texas, and he didn't seem likely to eviscerate the 4th Amendment anymore than Clinton (clipper chip, DMCA, Ruby Ridge) had done. I figured the country could survive four years of Bush.

Then Bush got into office. And appointed Ashcroft. And got his all-justifying Pearl Harbor September 11th. And parlayed that into a pointless and ineptly-managed war.

And using the "war on terrorism" and the "Patriot" Act, the Bush Administration has since effectively revoked habeas corpus and the 1st ("free speech zones", threatening prosecution of editors of books from banned countries), 4th (Patriot act allows warrantless search & seizure), 5th (due process and grand juries never got to Guantanamo ), 6th (counsel & speedy trial, ibid.), 8th ("cruel and unusual" characterizes Abu Ghraib well), and 10th (overriding California marijuana and Oregon euthanasia laws) Amendments.

So with all due respect to your ethics -- and I'm not trying to be sarcastic -- please think of all the ethical consequences of your vote.

Because I'm honestly worried that four more years of Bush might just mean the end of the United States of America that I grew up in and our Founding Fathers fought and bled to create.

under Bu$h the Elder's watch

....and donate money to the Kerry/Gephart campaign, put a Kerry/Gephart bumpersticker on my car, advocate to my friends to vote for Kerry/Gephart and try to convince anyone else I come into contact with to vote for Kerry/Gephart....

....why, what would you do?

the Democrats would not necessarily get my vote

if kerry doesn't win, in four years i might not even be living in the US anymore - and if I am, I don't think I'll be able to recognize it because of what chimp and his friends will have done to it....

I honestly don't know what I would do. I respect Gep for his union support over the years. However both he and Kerry sold out on this war IMO. I don't know if I can simply pretend that is okay with me. He would do a lot better with me if he chose an anti war democrat for VP. There are a ton of them in congress and of course there is alway Howard Dean.

at the sheer stupidity required to select Gephardt.

...I voted for Gore when he choose Lieberman. I don't care who the VP selection is, even a Republican, I figure I'm likely not going to like the choice regardless, so it doesn't matter.

nt

Yes, I'd still vote for him because Shrub is soooo badddd, but ever since the Kennedy assaination and the Nixon quasi impeachment, I have been very aware of that usually obscure VP CAN become your President very quickly. Gephardt has tried a number of times to be the Dem Candidate and failed each time. I believe he is almost as sneaky a Shrub in his campaign tricks, and I don't want him as my President ever!

you think that will hurt the ticket ? gephardt voting against nafta and welfare reform ?

He fought like heck for the workers of America against NAFTA, and had to fight his own pres to do it... gotta respect him for that!

around the nostrals...

gotten nowhere. He did help knock Dean out though--not the only thing, but an important thing.

Kerry is going to be looking for more star power than that.

Edwards or Clark would be much more likely. I'd like to see him go with Hillary.

it is a foregone conclusion that if we want Bush booted out, we vote for Kerry. I hate being held to a vote like that, but I will traipse to the polls and vote for a candidate whom I have serious doubts about his strategy, regarding Bush's war and invasion of Iraq.

I know there are other issues in the campaign for which Kerry is tryin desperately to change the focus to, but let's face it--no issue is greater than the loss of thousands of lives, and thousands upon thousands of maimed bodies -- all done on American lies and for nothing but increasing the wealth of American corporations.

It is too bad he did not have the balls of a Dean or Kucinich or , another hero, Lincoln Chafee, the only Republican Senator to vote against the war. If he did, he would be far better positioned than he is now.

The concern for human life and the attitudes and lack of morals in the Bush administration which is running the country as if it were one of these non responsible to the country or the people of America, takes precedence over such stupid issues as marriage rights of homosexuals.

way to marginalise and insult there...

what I am saying is that I truly do not care at all--it is not an issue to me. I do not stay awake at night worrying over it, because to me it is not an issue. It is simply something that does not cause me to knee jerk in some response--everyone deserves to have rights

It will not KILL anyone, have their legs blown off at the age of ten, torture anyone, invade a defenseless country of homosexuals

I am sorry I canno muster up the energy to protest for homosexual marriage.

There are far more pressing things on my mind, such as the murders of thousands of innocent people.

Give them what they deserve as far as I am concerned--but I cannot get all enthused about that issue right now.

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Gephardt IS left of center .... His IWR vote notwithstanding ...

WHY would someone condemn a man who has spent his WHOLE life striving to improve the lot of working people, for one vote made in the heat of war ? ...

I didnt like Gephardt fawning support of Bush in that Rose Garden scene: but that doesnt steal Gep's heart from us ...

He is a FINE man, whom I could support in a millisecond

I can only assume that the high priests of liberalism would deny gephardt holy communion too.

Least.

Inspiring.

Ticket.

EVER.

Elect Kerry/Gephardt in 2004
Because you can't please everyone!!!!!

:eyes:

Kerry/Gephardt in 2004
They'd hate to cook you breakfast!!!!!

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I Like Gore as much as I dislike Libermans whining moans.
Gep plus Kerry = NO ELVIS... just like Gore Liberman.
I watched my republican leaning family in Okla get quiet, pay attention and listen when Clark or Edwards commercials were on. Gephardt nothing.
Kerry needs some of that elvis imo.
tib

if?

Gephardt brings nothing to the ticket.

Should I beat the rush and puke before voting, or wait until I actually had to cast the vote, then puke?

grin and bear it.

but, probably not. Kerry would get my vote, but I'm immediately changing my voter registration off of Dem and back to Independant. Though, it would be a hard choice.

Get over yourselves. The majority of Americans don't despise Gephardt the way the far left does. Many throughout the midwest like and appreciate Dick Gephardt. He would be a tremendous help to the ticket.

Agree - and I don't know that the left truly despises him...

I think he would make conservatives feel more comfortable...

would be. And I certainly would not trade my Kerry for President bumperstickers for the Kerry/Gephart ones, that's for sure!

I'm voting for Kerry because I'll vote ABB, but this would be almost as bad of a choice as Kerry could make. The GOP has done too good of a job making Gephardt look like a punchline - warranted or not, it would damage Kerry's chances.

only a matter of time before the next crisis.

afaic...Gephardt is a trainwreck!

Of course, I'm planning on voting Green for Prez, anyway. Gephardt on the ticket would just solidify my vote. Which still may go to Kerry if has the gonads to pick a strongly anti-war VP.

but vote for Kerry anyway


it's not about Kerry, it's about getting Bush out of office!!!!!!!!!!!

;-)

but vote for Kerry anyway


it's not about Kerry, it's about getting Bush out of office!!!!!!!!!!!

;-)

sorry about the hick up

I cannot, in good conscience, vote for another war monger. Gephardt and Edwards are deal-killers for me because of that. Kerry has just barely managed to convince me that he has some contrition for his Iraq war vote. Nominating a pro-war VP would tip the scales.

while I voted!

has tried to get the nomination several times and has failed. He's not that popular with the base and won't bring in any votes. If Kerry selects Gephardt, he WILL lose the election no matter how many times I vote for Kerry.

They both have a good vote - bad vote history, with an emphasis on some really bad votes and a tendency to acquiese to the right.

Seriously. If that happens the Democratic party needs to get a serious smack upside the head.

We have come too far into losing this country to start trying to teach lessons. The only lesson learned will be how to say Heil Bush for he is the new emperor for world takeover as we pay the bill. There won't be any more elections.

it were Kerry/Clark or Kerry/Edwards. But I'm still voting for him.

Just pick someone that would help him get elected, not hinder.

I would love to see Clarke.

Love to see the chickenhawks debate that ticket!

hope that Gep does have positive influence on issues on trade and labor, and hope like heck the beat bush back.

We all know they will try to put Hillary in after Kerry, no matter who the VP is.

The war is the only thing people should be upset about. His record is very good.

Only because it will make it that much harder to win.

proudly cast my america-saving vote for Kerry-Gephardt, looking forward to vicious election night taunting of the freeper trolls and far left wack jobs who take every opportunity to bash Kerry.

rights and health care.

If Kerry brought him on board it would tell me everything I need to know.....It would tell me that Kerry lives in a fantasy land and I would be tempted to sit out the election or leave the country

being a total wimp when he should have stood up for something, and he's a spineless apologist for progressive values. He did in Dean in the Iowa primary, so Kerry could win it all. This is likely his payback. Close to, but not QUITE as bad as Lieberman. I'll vote for him and pray very hard for Kerry's good health. I hope the fiasco we've lived thru the last 3 years will begin to sink in, and people will join with Howard Dean and energize the "Democratic WIng" of the Democratic Party.

gephardt is too friggin dull, man... not forceful enough... kerry needs someone that compliments him -- i lean more & more toward clark every day, but of course i'll vote for him no matter who the fuck he chooses...

but I'll also tell you that if Bush and crew merely walk away without being brought to justice, I will give up on America. Replacing Bush without fixing America, so that someone like Bush never happens again , is just a band-aid..and a cheap brand band-aid at that.

America can not afford to allow Bush Inc to simply wave goodbye from the whitehouse lawn...if we do, another Bush will come along.

Gephart, for all his goodness, cannot capture the magical essence that is necessary to push Kerry over the edge. Only Clark can do this.

Payback for doing all the heavy lifting against Dean, eh?

Not.

and clean the house instead.

Or not vote at all.