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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:09 PM
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Will bushco's Implosion Lead to More Respect For Church/State Separation?
From the Neo-con Likudniks to the Xtian fundy jackboots, it's pretty clear that the religious beliefs of bushco lie at the root of their ideology and, ultimately, their failed policies.

The country has been drifting back into the middle ages of religious fervor for some time and a course correction s long overdue.

bush will be out in November and a long healing process will begin. Hopefully, the Senate will fall with him and the Dems will take back the House in 2008 on the coattails of Kerry's reelection.

So, I ask: do you think the populace of the USA will be in a mental and moral state to re-examine its flirtation with religious extremism? Is it possible that we may actually become a progressive nation that embraces secularism and discards the empty shell and unfulfilled promises of religion?

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:26 PM
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1. I think there will be an attempt to seperate church and state
and that there will be some victories-like allocating government money to parochial schools and faith-based charities. I think that some of the right-wing agenda, especially anti-abortion, that will keep being brought up. As for religion-it is undergoing a massive upheaval on a global scale. People of Christian, Muslim, Hindu, and Jewish faiths must decide upon the course of their faiths.
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:27 PM
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2. That would be the best to come out of this...
...but I don't see it happening.

While the comparisons may be sounding tired by now, they're apt: The U.S. has not been so divided since Vietnam -- and I believe the division will surpass that of the Vietnam era.

Will there be a second U.S. Civil War? Well, it already exists -- the only difference is that it hasn't come to bloodletting... yet.

I don't mean to be pessimistic, only realistic. Yes, in the end, I believe these times will serve as a lesson for future generations (which they may heed only until the last of us who are here now are dead) -- but as far as any great modern Enlightenment taking place in the near future, I say it's extremely unlikely.

I think we are indeed witnessing the decline of a modern Rome. Beyond that, it's nearly impossible to predict how we will evolve -- or devolve.

Flushing the scum out of the White House and Congress is a start, but not a magic bullet. I believe healing our many rifts with other nations is of the utmost urgency, and it is my hope that Kerry will spend his first day in office on bended knee, apologizing profusely on behalf of his predecessor, and outlining a solid plan to make amends to every nation we have injured throughout this fiasco. But even if the rest of the world decided to fall in love with us again tomorrow, it would do little to heal the internal strife we're facing now.

Ideology is a formidable beast.

About the best, most realistic, outcome may be a division into two nations. It can happen -- and just because it was avoided in 1865 doesn't mean it isn't possible.
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