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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 07:53 PM
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Regarding Policy Of Torture
I wrote this on April 6, 2002. Over TWO years ago. The powers that be were already psychologically implicating the citizenry in the horrors of what was about to transpire worldwide.

Nobody should be surprised. Anyone with a brain could see it coming.

CROSSWIRE
http://www.rbham.com/articles/02-04-06-crosswire.htm

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On as guests were a civil rights lawyer, whom I agreed with when he stated "the law is the law and torture's plain wrong.", and some retired military hack/Bush operative who was in a mad rush to apply "aggressive interrogation" to any and all whom might be suspected of terrorism.

To my horror, Carville joined Novak in giving a nodding approval to this hideous idea. As long, as it's "just a little".

What fresh hell is this? Torture's OK, as long as it's just a little? What's the point then? If you're not willing to go all the way, where's the incentive for the prisoner to spill his guts? What inane joke is this? Carville joking around saying that a little sleep deprivation and truth serum's okay?

There's a reason torture can't be legally used as a means of interrogation. Simply put, it's unreliable. Under torture, the suspect is apt to agree to anything the interrogator asks of him. Simply to end the torment, fear and pain. Can't anybody get this through their sick heads? We do not live in Medieval times anymore, gentlemen! It's how the bloody Spanish Inquisition worked for chrissakes!

In fact, history proves that torture is primarily used as a political weapon. In Stalinist Russia, Nazi Germany and Mao's China it was a well researched technique to "break" people and make them admit to any horrid crime to further the State's political agenda.

By the way, when will somebody discuss whether these guys they plan on torturing are guilty of anything? The Bush Administration has yet to produce any evidence that would stand up in a court of law. What about the cozy alliance between the ISI, Pakistan's intelligence agency and the CIA? Apparently they work real well together in arresting all these evil "Al Qaeda" operatives, am I right? Yet, Pakistan harbors Taliban and Al Qaeda fighters on Afghanistan's borders and has released 1300 of the 2000 they imprisoned earlier in the War Of Terror. Now Dictator Mushareef is saying that US forces are not welcome patrolling his skies and Pakistani areas where these fugitives survive. He's got everything under control, the fix is in. Mushareef and the ISI, with the CIA's help, will manufacture an Al Qaeda terrorist trial in Pakistan to mollify the American public into believing that Mushareef is "serious" about cracking down on these Arms Trade-sponsored terrorists. They throw a bone to the Bushies with a few "bin Laden lieutenants" like Abu Zabadayah - someone to play the fall guy. They get tacit approval from American public opinion, psy-opped into believing the "official" story of Islamic suicide airplane bombers, to torture confessions out of these guys that will be used in secret tribunals to stamp them guilty. Problem solved. Records sealed. Pipeline secured. Sigh. So obvious, it reeks.

It's obvious that powerful mainstream Democrats are going along with the Bush Family Evil Empire on this. They are doing their best to go along with the box cutters and Osama theory. Their silence on Bush and Cheney's demand for a "limited" investigation into 9-11 is deafening. What chance in hell do we have of hearing Cynthia McKinney or Dennis Kucinich on Crossfire? I'm really starting to wonder about Carville and his marriage to Cheney water carrier Mary Matalin. I get a queasy feeling in the pit of my stomach when I contemplate this. Talk about unholy alliances. I also wonder why every Democrat that sits on an intelligence committee is so gung-ho to prop up Israel's Right Wing and fully supportive of an invasion of Iraq. Just how mobbed up are these Democrats with the Bushites?
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:04 PM
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I think torture is wrong because it is, well, wrong. Not because it gets bad info. A minor point on your post. Thanks for the post. pinto

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