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Only Me Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 11:12 PM
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What ever happened with the Bush AWOL story and why did it go away?
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/2002/10/25_Deserter.html



October 25, 2002



George Bush, The Deserter

A BUZZFLASH READER COMMENTARY

Dear Buzz,

Attached is the formal complaint that I made with the Department of
Defense concerning George W. Bush's desertion during the Vietnam war.

Maybe you could post the complaint and encourage others to submit formal complaints as well. Tell people to call their congresspeople and request as a constituent service that they write a cover letter and deliver it. It was amazingly easy for me.

A BuzzFlash Reader

* * *

RE: Desertion

Department of Defense
The Pentagon
Washington, D.C. 20301-1900


To whom it may concern:

Recently, I was made aware of allegations concerning several violations of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) by George W. Bush during the Vietnam War. The alleged acts include being Absent Without Leave (UCMJ Article 86) for a period of more than a year from his National Guard assignments in Texas and Alabama. According to the UCMJ, a person who is AWOL for more than 30 days with evidence of no intent to return to duty is guilty of Desertion. (UCMJ Article 85)

To understand the gravity of this offense, one need only read the section 4.9.5 e. of Article 85, which states that the maximum punishment for desertion in a time of war (3), is, "Death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct". As far as I am aware, George W. Bush has never received any punishment for these alleged crimes, nor has he ever been charged.

When I read about these allegations in national media outlets including, but not limited to; The Boston Globe(1), The Washington Post(2), The Birmingham News(3), and The Dallas Morning News(4), I decided to call the Department of Defense to find out what the Statute of Limitations was for these crimes. I was informed that because of the nature of the crimes; deserting one's country during a time of war, that there is NO statute of limitations, and these crimes, if proven, can still be prosecuted today.

The purpose of this correspondence is to make a formal written complaint with circumstantial and documentary evidence of George W. Bush's violations of the UCMJ. Since he is the Commander in Chief of our armed forces, the details of his past service or lack thereof, are of particular interest to the American people.

DETAILS:

From May to November 1972, George W. Bush was living in Alabama working on the US senate campaign of Winton Blount and was required to attend drills with the Air National Guard unit in Montgomery, Alabama. There is no record that he attended any drills whatsoever. Additionally, General William Turnipseed (r) who was commander of the unit at that time has stated in interviews that he never saw Bush report for duty.

On September 5, 1972, Bush had requested permission to perform duty for September, October, and November at the 187th Tactical Recon Group in Montgomery. Permission was granted, and Bush was ordered to report to General William Turnipseed. In interviews, Turnipseed, and his administrative officer at the time, Kenneth K. Lott, have stated that they had no memory of Bush ever reporting.

Seven months later, at Ellington Air Force Base in Texas, Bush's two superior officers were unable to complete his annual evaluation covering the year from May 1, 1972 to April 30, 1973 because, "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period of this report." Both superior officers, who are now dead, and also Ellington's top personnel officer at the time, mistakenly concluded that Bush served his final year of service in Alabama. Bush returned to live in Texas after the senatorial election in November, 1972, so this is obviously not true.

According to the records available from the National Guard, the period between May 1972 and May 1973 remains unaccounted for. George W. Bush himself has refused to answer questions about this period in his life, other than to state that he fulfilled all of his National Guard commitments. If this were true, why is there no record of him fulfilling these commitments at either of his posts in Texas or Alabama? Why is there not one commanding officer that can come forward and state unequivocally that Bush reported for duty?

If the allegations are true that Bush deserted his country during a time of war, this is one of the gravest offenses one can commit against their country, short of treason. This is why there is no Statute of Limitations concerning these crimes. My father served proudly as a field surgeon in Vietnam, and it distresses me greatly that a person could use his family's influence and power to not only avoid the draft for service, but then to not fulfill the duties that he was assigned in substitute for serving in Vietnam.

These crimes are not to be taken lightly, and I believe that all men and women who serve America proudly would be shocked that a soldier was allowed to abuse the system in the way that George W. Bush allegedly has. These charges warrant investigation, and until a satisfactory record of Bush's service is produced, I can only assume that Bush did indeed desert his country in a time of war.

I implore you to investigate these charges. In this time of war and talk of preemptive strikes against other countries, it would serve the American people greatly to know that our Commander in Chief did not run away from duty during Vietnam. If this man is to send other's husbands, wives, and children to die in a foreign land, we must make sure that he fulfilled his obligations and commitments to America before he demands that others do the same.

Sincerely,

A BuzzFlash Reader


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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 11:21 PM
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1. it hasn't gone away Kerry's camp brings it up most every time
bushco mentions medals or lack of leadership or .......
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 11:22 PM
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2. As more National Guardsmen and reservists get called up
and some recuiting tactics get looked into, I think we should light a fire under this pot again.

When IRS records are being used to track down active and inactive reservists and they are talking about calling up reservists up to 45 years of age for active duty if they have certain skills, it is time to ask the shrub, again and LOUDLY, how come there is no documentation about the time in question.

Has Gary Trudeau given a check to anybody yet? Time to ask Scotty why that is... $10,000 would come in handy to just about anybody. Still no proof? Hmmmmmm, time to make noise about AWOL again.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 11:23 PM
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3. Jucier stories took it's place.
It's also a lot more effective to beat the Shrub with current stuff instead of what he didn't do 30 years ago.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 11:24 PM
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4. There have been too many other big news events.
But, the AWOL story still percolates just beneath the surface. It was a great opening salvo against the Chimp. And it came in very handy for Kerry when the idiot Repugs started questioning his service record. He shut them up quickly when he mentioned Bush*s "service".

I just might find new legs in October.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 11:26 PM
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5. Good question! And what happened to Condi's lies at 9/11 hearings
And what happened to charges by Richard Clarke that bush knew.
And what happened to John Dean's book -- how did THAT get buried?

A lot of important issues keep dropping out of sight, and they're ALL important!

:kick:
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Only Me Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 12:38 PM
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19. "A lot of important issues keep dropping out of sight, and they're ALL -
important." You said it. This is why people like all of us have to keep asking those questions.
:toast:
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Snoggera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 11:27 PM
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6. There are so many stories to choose from
it is difficult to read them all!
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monkeymind Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 11:30 PM
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7. every scandal dies
because there is no opposition.
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guajira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 11:39 PM
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8. Welcome to DU, Monkeymind
:toast:
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 12:39 AM
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9. it has NOT been lost...new ads nationwide soon to appear....

soon to be aired on TV nationwide....
NEW "Kerry compared to shrub" ad....in upper left hand corner of page
a great ONE minute explanation of shrub's service record vs. Kerry's....enjoy...and donate to moveon.org

https://www.moveonpac.org

also, further down page is the actual paperwork...Kerry requested Vietnam service, while shrub begged for 'no overseas service'
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 01:27 AM
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10. icing
I think the story is best used as "icing on the cake." That is, instead of using it as a fundamental reason for Bush to be removed, it should be used to tip the scales.

"Not only did he preside of over the worst intelligence failure in American history, start a war based on lies with no postwar plan, and turn our $3 trillion surplus in to a $9 trillion deficit, there's not even any proof he ever showed up for duty in the Texas ANG!" That sort of thing.

Most Americans will not find what Bush did 30 years ago all that important, but if they already are disapproving of him, it's a useful way of reinforcing their disapproval. If the Kerry campaign spent all its time hammering away at this, they'd fail to address the issues that Americans actually find important.
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IranianDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 01:28 AM
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11. Because Clinton dodged the draft too.
And he ended up winning against a WWII veteran.
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 02:39 AM
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14. Ultimately he returned to the lottery pool for the draft
that it was at the end of the war and that he drew a high enough number that he was not called is just his good luck. But, he did not "dodge" the draft --- he was allowed to go to England for postgrad work and submitted to the law when he returned.

BTW, Jeb Bush does not seem to have been in the draft in his year. A h.s. classmate of mine with the same b'day was drafted. He didn't come home. Where was Jeb?
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Only Me Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 02:22 AM
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12. I agree with most of your posts, and I know there are far more....
Edited on Thu May-27-04 02:24 AM by myday38
pressing matters. I would not expect this to have greater precedence than most of what is going on currently.

It just seems as though it should be an easy 'prove'. So much of what is happening in our minds is conclusive of his character. But there are still a large percent of people that still believe in his character and integrity. Sickening as it sounds, it is still true.

I just seriously can not see why this issue has not had some conclusion to it. We are simply talking about documentation, however, old. We are an archival nation, we have military records that go back to the enfancy of the military, 30 years shouldn't be anything hard.

In my humble opinion, this issue should continue to be pushed.
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 08:58 AM
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16. War President?
According to some shill on WI public radio the story about Bush's non service in the National Guards is no longer relevant because now he is a "War President." I am not able to connect the dots here. I guess the guy meant he now is showing how "courageous" he is in war time. What a joke.
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Only Me Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 12:31 PM
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18. I agree, it doesn't take much courage to start a war, for him, he only
has to open his mouth and speak.
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 08:58 AM
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17. War President?
According to some shill on WI public radio the story about Bush's non service in the National Guards is no longer relevant because now he is a "War President." I am not able to connect the dots here. I guess the guy meant he now is showing how "courageous" he is in war time. What a joke.
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KansasNate Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 02:25 AM
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13. asdf
Because everyone already knows that it was a shady deal. Even the few Bush supporters I know (a number that thankfully is dwindling) don't dispute that Bush shirked his duties.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 08:42 AM
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15. Hi KansasNate!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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