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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 02:42 AM
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Where was Jeb Bush during his Vietnam Era draft eligibility?
Seriously, that came up at a meeting tonight (well, the coffee afterward). I had a high school classmate that stupidly (for the early 70s) decided to take a year off to travel before college---he has the SAME birthday as Jeb Bush. My friend was drafted, sent to Vietnam and didn't come home.

How come I never see (or can find) one shred of info on Jeb Bush and his draft status back in the day? Anyone know?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 02:49 AM
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1. Jeb is of convenient age
He was born in 1953, graduated high school in 1971 when college draft deferments were done away with. He garduated from UT in 1974 when the war and the draft were safely over. I believe I remember hearing that his lottery numbers were high, and the draft was not taking as many men by 1971-72 anyway.
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 02:54 AM
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3. Nope, classmate with same exact b'day was drafted
We graduated in 1971 and the number they drew was low enough to be called up---Jeb Bush has *never* that I can find addressed his participation in the draft, any deferments or anything related.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 02:57 AM
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5. Or
Edited on Thu May-27-04 02:58 AM by bluestateguy
Perhaps he graudated in 1970. Because he finished college in 1974 at the age of 21 that means he either graduated high school at 17 or college in 3 years. So his high school graduation was either in 1970 (which would give him a different lottery number) or in 1971.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 05:34 AM
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11. Jeb finished College in three years
It is something he brags a lot about, especially when he's trying to convince people to cut HS to just three years.

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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 02:49 AM
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2. Why do I think he was in the Peace Group?
You know I am not sure at all but that popped into my mind for some reason. Could be he was still at college. I do not think he went to Yale or a place like that.
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uhhuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 02:56 AM
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4. I found this article
Edited on Thu May-27-04 03:23 AM by uhhuh
I guess he registered, but I don't know if he got any special treatment to avoid it, or was just lucky:

The war in Vietnam followed Bush from Andover to UT.

His mother was quoted as saying in a 1984 interview with United Press International that Bush considered filing for status as a conscientious objector. But Bush said Friday that his mother later said she was misconstrued in the article and that he never considered filing as a conscientious objector.

Bush registered for service during his freshman year, but the war was slowing and he was never called. ''I got a physical,'' he said. ``I was prepared to serve.''


http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/state/4124298.htm?1c


Seems to be quite the puff piece.

On Edit:

Interesting....

I just found this site that links Jebbie's early employer to a whole lot of shady stuff. Here's a little snip:






Snyder Oil, Texas Commerce Bank, Texas Capital Bank, SOCO International PLC



By the way, I have learned a lot about John C. Snyder, Snyder Oil, and SOCO International PLC. I am still gathering all the information...but looks like he attended Harvard's MBA program about the same time GW was there, owns the controlling interest in SOCO International PLC, never missed an opportunity to donate to Bush and the Republicans and best yet is the board member of a private Texas bank called Texas Capital Bancshares. This bank has apparently missed the recession and in a short period of time has learned to make money hand over fist:



http://moneycentral.hoovers.com/msn/capsule/5/0,2982,101135,00.html



Texas Capital Bancshares is the holding company for Texas Capital Bank, which has about a half-dozen branches in Austin, San Antonio, and the Dallas/Fort Worth metroplex; it is eyeing expansion in the Houston area. Targeting small and midsized businesses (with a focus on the energy industry), the bank offers commercial loans and leases, cash management, and trust services. It also provides private banking for wealthy individuals, in addition to community banking services. Online banking is offered through its BankDirect division. Texas Capital Bancshares, which plans an IPO, was founded in 1998 with a Texas-sized bankroll of $80 million.



http://quickstart.clari.net/qs_se/webnews/wed/ck/Btx-texas-capital-banc.RO9j_CNL.html



Net income of $2.1 million (net of $700,000 of income tax expense) was reported for the third quarter of 2002 compared to $2.0 million for the third quarter of 2001. Pre-tax income was $2.8 million for the third quarter of 2002 compared to $2.0 million for the third quarter of 2001, which represents a 36% increase. Net income for the nine months ended Sept. 30, 2002 was $5.5 million (net of $1.8 million of income tax expense) compared to $3.8 million for the same period in 2001. Pre-tax income was $7.3 million for the nine months ended Sept. 30, 2002 compared to $3.8 million for the same period in 2001, which represents a 95% increase.



Some conclusions and relationships



Jeb Bush worked for Texas Commerce Bank as the assistant to the founder and head of the South America division.
Texas Commerce Bank linked was linked to Saudi and drug money.
Texas Capital Bank is linked to SOCO International PLC and its offshore North Korea oil leases through John C. Snyder and Snyder Oil.
The "Forbidden Truth" links current terrorism to Saudi Banks and BCCI.
Peter Dale Scott and other have Texas Commerce Bank linked to BCCI.
Texas Capital Bank is linked to Texas Commerce Bank through John C. Snyder and Jody M. Grant.


Here's the link:

http://www.rmfdevelopment.com/political/SOCO_SICO_NCB_BCCI_TCB1_TCB2.htm
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 03:01 AM
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6. Any of the younger bushies
prepared to serve is so ludicrous
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 03:25 AM
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8. "I don't know if he got any special treatment "
I'll go out on a limb and say he did.
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DEMVET-USMC Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 03:17 AM
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7. What about that scam artist Neil Bush?How old is he as to draft age\NAM
Edited on Thu May-27-04 03:26 AM by DEMVET-USMC
This Family has cost and continues to cost all Americans, arguably more money and the LIVES,BLOOD,SWEAT and TEARS of the entire Nation along with the rest of the World than any other Family in history. When you include this families` contributions to the NAZI WAR MACHINE I cannot think of another American family that is event a close second. To Find out about the Bush and Walker families re: enabling HITLER go to < www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm >. All Americans should read this book, at least chapter II. ...Oscar
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liarliartieonfire Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 04:12 AM
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9. Great & Interesting Post..
Every layer of the Bush Crime Family is deceptive since there seem to be layers within the layers!

Like cleaning mold and fungus from a rotted old house.

Inch by inch, piece by piece, layer by sub-layer. It never ever ends.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 05:23 AM
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10. Jeb Bush
and I are exactly the same age..

We graduated High School the same year and both of our draft numbers were the same, as we had the same birthday..

that draft Number was 26..

I believe that year they were expecting to be drafting up to the number 170 or so and seeing the writing on the wall I talked a pal into joining the US Air Force with me that year (1971)..

It looked like I didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting out of it so rather than take the 2 year draft into the dreaded "ground pounders" (army) I chose the USAF because I thought I could just fly over and drop pretty colors on dirt and then fly away for only 4 years, keeping farther away from the action, the diseases, the rats, etc, etc..

How Bush got out of it is a good question, one that I would like to know myself..

The war was winding down tho and I'm pretty sure that they got past my draft number, but I've never been all that interested in finding out..

but now I am :)
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 05:44 AM
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12. Just what is the info the Bush family service record (excluding papa bush?
Inquiring minds would like to know.
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