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Brian_Expat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 03:22 AM
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The $#!+ hits the fan. Buh-bye, Dubya.
Data Reveal Some Signs Of Cooling in the Economy

By KEMBA J. DUNHAM

Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

May 26, 2004 12:48 p.m.

Two Commerce Department reports hinted at some cooling in the U.S. economy.

Durable-goods orders declined in April after posting large gains earlier in the year, though economists said the drop in this volatile series wasn't large enough to suggest that business investment has weakened much. A separate report hinted that the housing market might be nearing a peak as new-home sales in April posted their biggest decline in ten years.

Orders for durable goods -- items generally expected to last more than three years -- decreased 2.9% to $5.7 billion last month, after rising by 5.7% in March and 3.9% in February, the Commerce Department said. Behind the latest decline was a 4.7% drop in transportation orders and a 4.1% decline in orders for computers and electronics equipment.

Orders for new goods and equipment like cars and computers are followed closely by economists because they are considered a leading indicator of future economic activity. Nondefense capital goods, excluding aircraft, which is seen as an especially important indicator of business spending, fell 3.5% in April after rising 6% the month before.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 03:32 AM
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1. Housing starts also went down,
by 11 percent or something, because of rising
interest rates.

Uh-oh.

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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 06:53 AM
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11. It was an 11% drop in new home sales
Not starts.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 07:04 AM
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12. Thanks.

I knew it was something like that.

:)
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 04:05 AM
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2. but but but but but
the rich are getting richer, and more jobs are being exported, the trade deficit is increasing, federal deficits are breaking records ---

and according to the bush* fuzzy math method -- this is good for the economy

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meanwhile -- my partner asks me last night "so what are we suppose to do with these new terror alerts? what can we do as joe-blow on the street?"

me: "ummmmmmmm, errrrrrrrr... go shopping?"
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clonebot Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 05:22 AM
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3. the u.s. dollar
trades against the euro at something like .82 ... oh i just love watching our currency go down
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 05:51 AM
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5. Joe Blow...
...can be suspicious of his neighbors and report anybody they don't like to the dept of fatherland security!

Anything to keep the public's eyes off of the f-up in the WH.
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 05:47 AM
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4. The wealthy have bought all the 'toys' they wanted...nothing else to buy
except gasoline to power their planes and boats and luxary cars. Life if rought!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 05:52 AM
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6. You just have to be a little smarter than Bush
to realize that the economy is headed for the dumpster. Here in NW AR, we see stores starting to go out of business. My husband was laid off for lack of work at a car dealership, and as he's gone around looking for work elsewhere, most places have mechanics just sitting around (only one was really busy, but they weren't hiring). The volume of pest control business is down a bit for this time of year. The guy who does the pest sprays told me that the talk down at the local diner is that this is a recession heading for depression.
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ablbodyed Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 06:16 AM
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7. Ah, but just ask Paul Gigot.....
on the WSJ and late on Lehrer.... The economy is great and it's all due to the tax cuts. Said it on 'Now' These people are supposed to be intellegent?
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 06:42 AM
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8. Retail figures soon, too. People driving less to go shopping due to gas
prices.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 06:42 AM
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9. Dupe - sorry
Edited on Thu May-27-04 06:42 AM by no_hypocrisy
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 06:50 AM
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10. There never WAS a recovery,
just an improvement in standards for the superwealthy and corporations. The house of cards is just getting harder for them to prop up, watch them seriously try to cook the books further and spin the numbers. There is TONS of evidence that they have been producing bogus economic figures and the People are NOT being fooled. Everyone but the elite 1% knows this economy sucks.
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 07:14 AM
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13. There was an temporary, and artificial, recovery
When congress handed out the "rebate" checks last summer, it provided a temporary goose to the economy as everybody, naturally, went out and spent the money (I bought a kayak). And remember that when homeowners refinance, they can typically "skip" a month before making their first payment (I know, the interest is still accruing). But that means that homeowners who refinance found themselves with a whole month's house payment burning a hole in their pocket.

But without another rebate this summer and with the refinancing boom to generate disposable income, the recovery will soon peter out because people are still unemployed, and many who are have had to take jobs that pay less than what they made before.
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