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drumwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 11:50 AM Original message |
"Freedom" is to the neocons what "for the people" was to the Communists |
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Jokerman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. Same with "Democracy" n/t |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yes, abuse of language is common to Busheviks, Soviets, Nazis |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
3. Stop abusing the word communism. |
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Egalitarian Zetetic (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
4. Why are you slandering Communists? <nt> |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 12:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Bceause the Soviets, ChiComs, etc, have a history of linguistic |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 12:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Dont overgeneralize unfairly. |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 12:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I disagree. You are right about generalizations, though |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 01:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. So your claim is that communism causes tyranny. |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 01:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. My claim is that Communism is Fertile Ground for Tyranny, yes |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 01:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Thats a very twisted interpretation of history |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 01:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Thanks for the personal attack. Yes I've read Marx. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. I edited within a few seconds of posting, |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I call you an Extremist because of your mindset |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. I am not a communist. and you are reapeating yourself too |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. You are NOT a Communist? |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Now you call me a liar? |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:22 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. No, I call you blinded by ego. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:26 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. You keep repeating standard lines yourself. |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Thank You Tom... |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. You're welcome and well said yourself |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 01:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Of course it does -- because it centralizes power |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Wow, Chris, aid from an unexpected quarter! |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Well, Tom -- as a democratic socialist... |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. I like the way you think, even if I don't 100% agree |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. the term always been praciticed emplies weve tried it out alot |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 01:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. OK, whatever... |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:05 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. IC, you beat me to it |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Save your tired anti-communist bs, I've heard it all before, from neo-cons |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Logical fallacies: Argument by Authority, Guilt by Association |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:15 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. OK, now you've really stepped in it... |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:20 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. You are asking for unreasonable things |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:22 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Put up or shut up |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. He won't though. Expect more repition of some very OLD lines |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:30 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. That is absurd. |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:38 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Buh-bye. |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:48 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Now that's where you're wrong |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Have you considered there may be a REASON why it has never... |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. No, because history doesnt provide controlled situations |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. And the only compelling arguments FOR communism... |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:24 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Not at all |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
48. On the Magical Mystery Tour... |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:31 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I am not advocating communism. |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. See what happens when you argue with extremists, IC? |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. The fact that I am not a communist continues to give me some humor here |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Only tragic because your ego blinds you to what you are |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. lol |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
7. Good analogy |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
13. Neoconservatives are right wing Trotskyists |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Busheviks also understand and have applied Trotsky's Perpetual Revolution |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 01:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. I can think of many many times |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. No, Trotskyism fits much better than Nazism |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. We need to stop wasting our time |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
51. Ah, once again you are putting far far too much weight on the theory |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
53. Neocons are very similar to Stalinists and especially Trotskyists |
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Papercut8 (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 03:33 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. First off, I'd like to say I agree with drumwolf |
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drumwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 09:31 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Hi Papercut, welcome to DU! |
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