Will Pres. Kerry expose the Bush Admin and throw them in jail?

Let's see, this administration:
1. Knowingly used false and fabricated evidence, mostly from a known con-man who turns out to be an Iranian double agent who's wanted for bank fraud in Jordan, has a brother who works for Iranian intelligence in Lebanon, and colleagues who work for Iran, paid him millions of dollars, granted him access to Saddam's secret files, and gave him US intelligence he should not have had. (all despite warnings from the CIA, State dept. and British intelligence)

2. Exposed a CIA agent for political revenge.

3. Deliberately lied, playing on fears of WMD/9-11, to get the American people to support an illegal war.

4. Deliberately violated the Geneva Conventions.

5. Pursued and managed the war so incompetently that they have made the world a more dangerous and unstable place, put our soldiers at risk, and alienated us from the World community, and benefited Iran who is now poised to gain influence and power through the Shia community in Iraq.

Are resignations or a defeat in November good enough? I don't think so. These people are guilty of treason, lies, and incompetence to the highest level. This is totally inexcusable. The only way to set the US on a path to reclaim our reputation is to arrest and jail these dangerous, treasonous, idiots.

Just askin. Seems to me all he needs is an agressive attorney general.

he has things he wants congress to pass so he can sign it. if congress remains republican or almost evenly split he will need some republicans to vote for the bills he supports. if he goes after bush it could be hard to get the other side to cooperate.

But he should

I have hopes. I will WORK to make it happen (letters, etc.).

But I have little faith it will happen.

Which means that, even if we defeat them, the Imperal Family is oging to come back stronger and MORE BRUTAL and MORE TOTALITARIAN.

in the government have a common class understanding and rarely throw each other in jail even when there is reason and opportunity to do so.

and the shit will continue under a different name...

AFAIK, it protects outgoing presidents from political retribution. Although I think most of the Bush admin needs to be behind bars... maybe a few executed for treason. :thumbsup:

nothing is criminally prosecutable - well maybe a conspiracy charge.

All that is wrong is not illegal & vice versa.

I would think willfully violating the Geneva Conventions would be criminal, since it's the law in the US.

forever. The Convention only applies to signatories and their Uniformed Armies. The protection for detainees is nebulus.

Again - not right but so.

and that is wrong. There comes a time whenm "respect" for a criminal evil person and letting them get away with crimes against the people of the United States needs to discarded in favor of moral imperatives.

What do we tell the children about being honest, or doing the right thing, not lying, not doing harm to others when their own president is the most egregious liar, a war criminal, and disrespectful of our government process?

This is the man, an ignorant man at that, who is proud of a gentleman's "C" that he received for doing nothing in college, that visits schools, is held up to children as an example, and his wife visits schools also, yet he is probably going to be allowed to get away with murder, literally because NO ONE will call him on it. We do not need to teach our chidlren hypocrisy. We do not need to expect from them, something we do not expect from the president so the logic may go.

Seriously, I don't think Kerry would go after the Bush administration. He's too connected in too many ways to do that. Howard Dean, on the other hand, would have done everything possible to nail them. I suspect that his willingness to go after Bush might have been one of the major reasons his campaign fizzled so suddenly.

May I add that the prosecution and punishment of the Bush administration for their crimes would have a monumentally therapeutic effect on the rest of the world. It would be the quickest way to recover our ruined image world-wide. The entire world would breath a collective sigh of relief and America could begin rebuilding itself as the constitutional Democracy that was intended by Jefferson and his colleagues.

Remember, Bush* will get some votes, maybe 35-42%. Somehow or another (and believe me I have no idea how) Kerry has to put a bandage on the wounds of this nation. He has to change the tone and I don't know if a stiff round of judicial proceedings will do anything more than to solidify the opposition against him as well as the best interests of the country.

I'm not suggesting that the Bushistas don't deserve every bit of justice they have coming, but I believe that it's not going to help to keep partisanship on the front burner.

There are some events which could complicate that: One poster already mentioned Congressional makeup which could cut both ways. Another factor/event which could complicate matters would be if Bush or any of his cronies were charged with War Crimes. If that were to happen, Kerry would be presented with some difficult choices in yielding to International Law while facing fierce resistance on the home front.

And gave all the "bipartisan commissions" everything he has access to? If Bush and cronies were exposed for the treasonous criminals they are, I would think it would be a deathblow to the far right, and help get the country back on track towards the path of sanity.

kerry has said and will not be secretive as bush is. he is a big supporter of openness in government.

you left out two big ones:

1. shifting of $700 Million from Afghanistan War to Iraq War without Congressional Approval (definitely an impeachable offense and well documented)

2. 9/11 itself. Many of us firmly believe that Bushco were complicit, whether LIHOP or MIHOP, and that makes #1 small potatoes. Proving this will be difficult but IF there is a national will to do so, can likely be done.

Treason, mass murder, conspiracy and racketeering, fraud, what other criminal statutes would be violated by #2?

That my friend, is the sound of BushCo. laughing all the way to the bank. The American people are first-class suckers.

"Mission Accomplished." Indeed.

but it won't work. The masters of the washington puppets didn't have bush go after clinton and all his criminal activity, so why should they care about dumb ole bush. Wherever the money is, that is where the politicians will be.

"... clinton and all his criminal activity, ..."

A list with links will do nicely.

Go to infowars.com and do a search on both.

Who is Alex Jones?

you got his name and title correct :-)

That would set a horrible precedent for future presidencies, it should be up to the legislative and judicial branches to check the executive.

What he could, and probably WILL do however, is loosen the reigns on all the information bushco has held in deep dark secret to fuel the fires of the executive and the press.

Actually, now that I think about it, once he goes through all that info, if his admin ran across any clear crime, how could they NOT turn it over to the DoJ?

And then there would be no one to apply leverage to to testify against *.