Proof that CNN is a soulless rethug spin machine

Here is cat_girl25's original thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1677604&mesg_id=1677604&page=

I just wanted to make sure that this sin against our country gets viewed by as many as possible.

" (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

ARENA (voice-over): Terror experts say it's not about who wins the U.S. election, it's about impact.

M.J. GOHEL, ASIA-PACIFIC FOUNDATION: If, for instance, say, George Bush was in the lead in the opinion polls right now and an attack took place and that changes the equation as it did, for instance in Spain, then al Qaeda would feel that it has scored a major success.

ARENA: Al Qaeda affiliates attacked Spain just before its elections in March. Some suggests that cemented an overwhelming win for the socialist party.

ASHCROFT: We believe, for example, the attack in Spain is one that is viewed by al Qaeda as particularly effective in advancing al Qaeda objectives.

ARENA: The attack did result in Spain pulling its troops out of Iraq. Experts say the less Western influence in Iraq, the better for al Qaeda.

GOHEL: Iraq is a key battleground for the terrorists. The terrorists want to turn Iraq into another Taliban Afghanistan. They would like to see the premature withdrawal of the U.S.-led coalition forces.

ARENA: Neither John Kerry nor the president has said troops pulled out of Iraq any time soon. But there is some speculation that al Qaeda believes it has a better chance of winning in Iraq if John Kerry is in the White House.

BEN VENZKE, INTELCENTER: Al Qaeda feels that Bush is, even despite casualties, right or wrong for staying there is going to stay much longer than possibly what they might hope a Democratic administration would.

(END VIDEOTAPE)"

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0405/27/wbr.01.html

This is segment is just a collection of right-wing memes about the war on terror. There is no actual substance to it. "Iraq is a key battleground" - "AQ thinks they have better chance of winning in Iraq if JK is in the WH", etc... How the fuck can anyone say that Kerry could not win this after Bush has fucked it up so bad? A new approach, one that involves PLANNING and less LYING seems to me to be the way to win the war in Iraq. If a "win" is even possible at this point.

One of the strangest things about this segment is that NO ONE knows how an attack would influence an election. AQ has no idea either. Yet logically there would be some sort of impact. It's just that no no one knows exactly what it would be, thus this is all speculation turned into repig spin. It's disgusting, it's flawed reasoning, and those that employ you it, IMO, are no better than terrorists. In fact they are doing EXACTLY what AQ wants, spinning and speculating in a sowed climate of fear. Fuck these asshats might as well be working for AQ as far as I'm concerned.

Fuck you CNN - network for Al Queda. You spread the fear, you sow the doubts, you disprupt our national discourse!

that over 92% of the people in Spain opposed the war Aznar took them into, and lied about those involved in the train attack and THAT is why they sent his ass packing!

And also the fact that Aznar LIED about who attacked them, claiming it was Basque Seperatists...

Fuck CNN. It's just a Bush moouthpiece.

to withdraw the troops from Iraq if he won this year's election.

that alerted the nation to terror and its funding and the media NEVER READ IT OR REPORTED ON IT.

Kerry also wrote the legislation signed by Clinton that guided the tracking of terror funds.

Amazing that so many newspeople are so IGNORANT AND DOWNRIGHT STUPID.

Phoning it in and not giving two shits about this country or anything else besides their own fat, lazy asses.

:puke:

:argh:

Once and for all:
Aznar's numbers were plummeting before the bombing.
He DID HIMSELF IN with his lies and by leaning on newspaper editors around the country to report the bombings as an ETA operation, though it was clearly not. Even as evidence against Al Queda piled up, he was publically insisting it was ETA --- Even though ETA had NEVER attempted so large nor indiscriminate operation.

Hey Presto! It turns out th Spanish people don't like being LIED to!

Get a Clue, George! (and Hastert and Hyde and all the other F***heads that declared the vote a 'great victory for Al Queda.)

Spain threw off the yoke of oppressive facism only a short time ago -- 25 or so years. They remember it well. They didn't LIKE IT.

Too, listen to this....Spain is a nation of people of outstanding courage that have been dealing with terrorism on their own ground one HELL of a lot longer than the U.S.


The way our politicians are treating Spain....I wouldn't blame Spain if it never lifted a finger to help us again, ever.

GODDAMN but this is one aspect of this whole fuggin' mess that pisses me off most.

Anderson Cooper after seeing that in the intro he had a bit asking whether Bush was concerned abolut terror or votes/ what is behind the new warnings, etc., with "WAG THE DOG?" scrolling across the screen. I haven't watched it yet because I have a movie playing, am hoping he actually points out how the terra warnings have been used as distractions ever since 9/11. Anyone here see it?

It was close before the election, and a close election.

Also, the presence of US troops in Iraq helps Al Quaeda recruitment.

to have US troop in Iraq, or to have an "Al Queda victory" in Iraq? I think it's easier to recruite people when you have demonstrated success against US troops. Some people are more willing to join when they no that there's not a decent chance they'll be killed right away.

What bunk!

fax: 404 827 4215

e-mail their news chief:

Eason.Jordan@cnn.com

Call them at 404 827 1500

Be sure to provide the link to the transcript and the transcript itself.

My favorite line is:

"But there is some speculation"

That is not news. That is not journalism.

Yeah, there's speculation right here that y'all're a bunch of right-wing propagandists.

Dear Mr. Jordan:

Your latest campaigning for the GOP can be found at the link below. This time it’s a particulary nasty bit of propaganda, that is, suggesting that Osama Bin Laden wants Kerry to win the election this fall.

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0405/27/wbr.01.html

I didn’t even go to J-school but I happen to know that "experts say" and "there is some speculation" is not news.

It is nothing BUT speculation. And I can speculate as well.

I could argue, with even more conviction, that Bush has given Osama Bin Laden everything he ever wanted.

Bin Laden wanted troops out of Saudi Arabia. Check.

Bin Laden wanted Saddam Hussein removed from power. Check.

Bin Laden wants hatred of America to spread throughout Arabia. Check.

Yet you have the gall to go on national television and abuse your position to suggest that bin Laden wants Bush out of office?

Bin Laden is probably Bush's biggest supporter.

Also, 92% of the Spaniards were against their troops being in Iraq from the getgo. The reason they were so pissed off after their own terrorist attacks is because Aznar LIED TO THEM about who probably did it.

Here is the quote from your own transcript (link above):

<<ARENA: The attack did result in Spain pulling its troops out of Iraq. Experts say the less Western influence in Iraq, the better for al Qaeda.
GOHEL: Iraq is a key battleground for the terrorists. The terrorists want to turn Iraq into another Taliban Afghanistan. They would like to see the premature withdrawal of the U.S.-led coalition forces.
ARENA: Neither John Kerry nor the president has said troops pulled out of Iraq any time soon. But there is some speculation that al Qaeda believes it has a better chance of winning in Iraq if John Kerry is in the White House.
BEN VENZKE, INTELCENTER: Al Qaeda feels that Bush is, even despite casualties, right or wrong for staying there is going to stay much longer than possibly what they might hope a Democratic administration would.>>

You guys really need to do your job better there at CNN and stop with the GOPing.

You're supposed to be providing news, not campaigning for George Bush.

I am not alone in being angry with you about this.

We are ready to hold you accountable. You need to follow the New York Times' lead and admit that you did NOT do your job, that you are complicit in an illegal invasion of a country that was no threat to the United States, and therefore share the responsibility for the deaths of hundreds of U.S. troops and thousands of Iraqi civilians.

Not to mention bankrupting the U.S. treasury.

It is time everybody admits they were wrong, and that this war was wrong from the beginning, and that Bush is a failure.

It is time to take the car keys away from George Bush.

:kick:

Just turn off that Soviet Pravda. You'll feel better.

I recently returned to cable news because I wanted cspan back but I don't know if it's worth it. All the cable news channels SUCK!

"...But there is some speculation that al Qaeda believes..." . SPECULATION that someone BELIEVES a certain way is a certain sign that propagandists are spinning a story in a certain direction. In this case they're being partisan and spinning it for Bush*.

- And notice that they didn't 'speculate' if there were a terrorist attack and Bush* was BEHIND in the polls? Could he then blame a loss on terrorists?

- Call it what you will...but this is state-sponsored propaganda carried out in the guise of the free press.

when he fell off his bike.

I can "speculate" anything.

Or was that an internet myth that I just didn't see debunked?