I hate people from orange county. a testimony to my hatred...

First a little background info. I take algerbra 2 at the high school and I'm in eighth grade. I have Kerry/Edwards stickers on my math book that i carry around because i have to. i could only get one copy from the high school so i have to take it to both schools. I missed the bus today and i was waiting for my friend's mom to pick us up. My friend's little sister's friend came up to us and said "What the fuck, you like Kerry?" So I said "Well, he's kind of right wing for my tastes but he's a hell of a lot better than bush." She says "No he's not, he's an asshole." and my friend says "What has he done that's so bad?" She replies (of course not having any political knowledge) "well, what has bush done?" Even my friend, who hates politics, and I began listing reasons why he was a bad president. We landed on gay marriage in the end and she instantly said "we can't have gay people getting married." At this point we began screaming "There's nothing wrong with gay people!" "yes, they can't have children and will decrease the population!" "What kind of logic is that!?" "If gays get married, then the world will turn gay and there won't be a world left!" "You are a homophobe!" "WHAT DID YOU CALL ME?! IM NOT GAY!" "I called you a homophobe, not a homo." "What the hell is a homophobe?" "Someone who is afraid of gays." "Just shut up, you fag." "Even if I was gay there wouldn't be anything wrong with me." "Yes, there would! My mom told me this you fucking idiot. She's a whole lot smarter than you!" Then my butts in, "Do you know anything about politics?" "What's a politic?" So I say, "Stop talking about things you don't understand." And then, of course, she says "I don't want to talk to you, you're wrong."

Luckily, my friend's mom came and I didn't end up killing that girl.

I hate Orange County........

with your playmates :-)

what type of games do we play? The type where I could "accidentally" injure her?

there's time for violence when you get older and can handle it responsibly.

weren't nearly that interesting. Even in civics class.

I was more concerned with looking at dirty pictures over at my friends house when he had dialup internet and I didnt and pissing someone off,lol.

so, for a thrill, the best I could do was read 1984 for the juicy bits.

There will always be ignorant idiots. But reading stories about young people like you and your friend like you gives me hope. Keep fighting the good fight!

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Im not that pissed off anymore. :)

Lived there for 6 ugly months. Unfortunately, assholes outnumber thinking people 8 to 1. So there is no escape. Find common types and learn to spit at the others.

and it's not all that bad... geezzzz :eyes:

south OC is awful

OC is the belly of the beast. The heart of greed and opulence. Its synthecially produces big boobed blondes for born again christian sex orgies.

Take a trip to Santa Ana. Political climate changes real quick up there.

The area i live in is VERY right wing. My parents used to be the only registered democrats 20 years ago.

Things are slowly moving in the right direction:

ORANGE COUNTY

1980

Carter 22.6% 176,704
Reagan 67.9% 529,797
Anderson 7.1% 55,299
Other 2.4% 18,412

1984

Mondale 24.3% 206,272
Reagan 74.7% 635,013
Other 1.0% 8,792

1988

Dukakis 31.1% 269,013
Bush 67.7% 586,230
Other 1.2% 10,064

1992

Clinton 31.6% 306,930
Bush 43.9% 426,613
Perot 23.9% 232,394
Other 0.7% 6,612

1996

Clinton 37.9% 327,485
Dole 51.7% 446,717
Perot 7.7% 66,195
Other 2.8% 24,179

2000

Gore 40.4% 391,819
Bush 55.8% 541,299
Nader 2.8% 26,833
Other 1.1% 10,954

The last time a Democrat carried Orange County was FDR in 1936, but the long-term trend suggests that it will happen again in your lifetime.

I leave at 18 and will never come back (Alaska, here I come)

No pun intended. But don't expect to escape from right-wingers there. :)

seems to be the case - same situation here. Think I'll vacation elsewhere if I can ever leave my house again. :puke:


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My Middle School had a similar encounter with a fellow student. I live near San Fran so the location has little to do with it. I'm glad you spoke out.

Most people just regurgitate what their parents say so it's pretty easy to argue.

I am 17 and in Tustin. OC is okay if you know the right people. Just try to find the smart people. Generally around here the smart people are the liberal ones.

Anyway, I'm getting ready for my Kerry meetup tonite. Good luck in "The OC"...

It's by Laguna Beach (well, the name makes it pretty obvious)

I feel your pain. I avoid South County at all costs... Repuke SUV soccermom heaven.

I would run away, honestly, I would.

That's the best description I've ever heard of South OC

From the SecState office:

2000 Presidential

Bush 16,820
Gore 10,232
Nader 731

2002 Governor

Simon 10,352
Davis 5,171

2003 Recall

Yes 18,094
No 5445

http://www.ss.ca.gov/

I had a bad day yesterday and today. Thanks for cheering me up LMfOC. :toast:

:)

Any right winger who gets into a discussion about politics with Alexandar is in trouble. Alexandar told me about one set he was working on. The movie was called "Sleepover" and an unusual number of homeschooled kids were working on the set and a lot of them were from right-wing families. Apparently, between takes, the kids got into a discussion about Iraq and George W. Bush and the pro-war kids didn't have any facts. So Alexandar gave them an education and the pther kids wound up agreeing that Bush was a bad guy and the war was a bad thing.

Natasha, the younger of the two, convinced Republicans to vote for Gore when she was nine years old.

According to these two kids, you just need to present facts and people and other kids are relatively easy to convert.

Just hang in there. As far as I can tell, kids are more effective messengers than adults. You certainly are not alone in OC. Perhaps you ought to link up with some of the other Democratic kids in your area.

I met my friend Samantha this year who really encouraged me to get into politics. I already knew I was a Democrat/Liberal but now i know a lot more. Unfortunatley kids just regurgitate what their parents tell them, so it's hard to convince them anything since they have no idea what theyre talking about in the first place.

I've noticed that Democratic kids tend to think more for themselves though. I go to the protests at Costa Mesa on Friday and there are often kids there who are absolutetly brilliant.

I suspect that Republican kids would mostly switch if they did their own thinking.

;)

BTW I'm using my step-dad's computer if you wonder how I got to your thread.

At least you can articulate your position (very impressive in this day and age); I meet supposed Democrats all the time who cannot tell me why they identify with the party.

Don't worry--she'll either come around, or lose interest in the outside world altogether.

By the way, happy 8th grade graduation! With your level of social awareness, you should consider being in or starting an underground 'zine at your high school. Stir up some controversy! Whatever you do, don't try to assimilate by killing your sense individuality. Veer from the herd.

I would never join with "Narcisists and Conformists Inc." (what i call the "popular" kids)

I can't figure out computers. I have trouble making a sub-profile on AIM.

Go to this site: http://www.blogger.com
They make it so easy, it's sick; they give you templates, or you can write your own code. Much easier than AIM. It's all free, too!

I've been wanting to get a blog :D

Don't get too fancy with the code/graphics/design. Get your content together, then see what format is the most simple for you.

We'll be waiting!

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:eyes:

Torture on Earth can be worse than death :evilgrin:

to bad.

I'm a HS student and I get a little of that shit, just hold your head up and remember that you'll always be smarter and more successful then them.

I can't help but laugh at this...I'm sorry (teehee). I feel your pain...used to live behind the orange curtain myself (briefly, thank goodness). Hang in there, kiddo :hi:
p.s. do you mind if i add the above to my sig line...it's priceless :7

:) I have four years til I can escape

just wait till you get to High School, it's going to get worse. Especially if you live in OC.

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North Carolina...:P

in MV, and I feel your pain. At a League of Women Voters discussion in International Relations & Politics, one fellow said that a good side effect of the invasion of Iraq was that there was no more torture. He didn't even recognize the words "Abu Ghraib"! The other Poli Sci classes are filled with people even more rightist, misinformed, and just plain stupid. One bearded neocon barged in and shouted that Gore's popular total is bigger than Bush's only if you counted Puerto Rico, Guam, etc. OC is beyond delusional and just outright hallucinatory!

My mom says blah blah blah. You did good. I would have told her to research both Kerry and Bush and THINK for herself.

I did well, not good. (My ENGLISH teacher says good)


No offense meant, by the way :D