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msanger Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 06:20 AM
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War in Iraq as the centerpiece of the War on Terrorism
This is the most frightening thought I've had in years. The bush administration has often said that its invasion of Iraq was the centerpiece of the larger war on terrorism. Many have said that the invasion of Iraq was a distraction from the war on terrorism, that the resources that went into Iraq could better have been used finishing the job we started in Afghanistan.

While this is true, perhaps it should not be our central concern. Perhaps our central concern should be how badly the bush administration has fucked things up in Iraq. Sure, they developed a plan that defeated Saddam's army - but Belgium (just to pick a small country at random) probably could have defeated Saddam's army. But outside of the initial defeat, they have made mistake after mistake after mistake. And we have seen the results in over 800 American dead, in our reputation around the world being ruined, in the prisoner abuse scandal....

Now here is the scary part. Nobody really knows what the bush administrations "war on terror" actually consists of. We know that we have the color alerts, we know we have the (half-finished) invasion of Afghanistan, and the invasion of Iraq, and I think some guys were arrested in Buffalo a year or two ago. But what if they are fucking up the hidden war on terror as badly as they fucked up the "centerpiece of the war on terror." What if the war on terror is actually going as badly as the war in Iraq?

We might not know how badly they are screwing things up until we see the smoking gun, or as Ms. rice says, "the mushroom cloud."
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 06:40 AM
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1. The way Bush has used the language to convince
Edited on Fri May-28-04 06:45 AM by Marianne
people has always baffled me. Iraq is not "the centerpiece of the war on terror". Iraq has never been involved in terrorist activity or 9-11 against the US. What we are seeing in Iraq now, is a resistance to the occupation and the ill advised invasion of a stupid man eager to make a name for himself that is better than his daddy's, and eager to make a lot of money for his business buddies, especially the oil buddies.

People have bought the "war on terror" as if terror was a country that we could wage war on and conquor,one that would surrender to us, that would sign papers of surrender or any of the things that in our minds are associated with wars in the past on other countries. Incredible--and it is difficult to try to point that out to those who believe we are in an actual "war" on terror and we can win!

I came to the conclusion that this is a country where double speak is accepted without question because our education system is a failure and mostly because of a bombardment upon the people of adverstising almost constantly from many sources over a period of an entire lifetime beginning in babyhood, constantly trying to sell something and using the language in the same spurious way as Bush Inc. have. Perhaps there is no use any longer in teaching reading comprehension.
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msanger Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 08:31 AM
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2. aikido...
is a martial art that takes the opponents energy, and leads them further along the path they are already headed in. At some point they realize they have to adjust, and you just help them "over" adjust.

I think that since many americans have bought "the war on terrorism" we can take that mind set and ask "how is the war on terrorism going?"

The answer is "we don't know," since much of the so-called war is secret.

But we can look at what the bush people have called "the centerpiece" of their war. And it is going terribly. So my extension, the war on terrorism is going terribly.

We just take their mis-use of the language and follow it to the logical extreme - which is that bush is losing the war on terrorism.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 09:35 AM
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4. that's interesting Sanger n/t
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 09:00 AM
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3. The War on Terrorism is completely bogus. You can't wage war against a
technique. The ONLY point of the war on terrorism is to create a boogieman that we can use to justify toppling governments unfriendly to our corporate control and to steal their resources. Same as the old War on Communism and the War on Drugs, etc. It's simply a mechanism to sell armaments (HUGE business), steal resources and topple governments.

You've been conned.
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