Abuse At Iraqi Prison Predictable, Decades-Old Study Shows (MTV!?!)

NashVegas

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Fri May-28-04 09:08 AM
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Abuse At Iraqi Prison Predictable, Decades-Old Study Shows (MTV!?!)

http://www.mtv.com/chooseorlose/headlines/news.jhtml?id=1487984

good lord, has this not been in mainstream news media, or did I miss it?

05.27.2004 2:56 PM EDT

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. That is, until someone finds the pictures.

It's 2:30 a.m. Bored prison guards pull prisoners from their cells, strip them naked, chain them together and force them to simulate sodomy. The guards know someone is recording their activities, but they don't let concerns about future consequences interfere with the degradation and abuse.

Sound familiar? It might sound like abuses that occurred at Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad, but these pictures were taken over 30 years ago � at Stanford University.

In 1971 a group of 24 college men volunteered to act as either guards or prisoners in an experimental prison.

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RafterMan

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Fri May-28-04 09:12 AM
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1. A couple people have mentioned it

I think I saw a movie (The Experiment?) based on it.

The difference is that there weren't any military intelligence people involved in the SPE.

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liberalcanuck

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Fri May-28-04 09:36 AM
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2. The Plaid Adder had a great essay on this...

comparing the prisoner abuse in Abu Ghraib to the infamous experiment led by Stanford University researcher Philip Zimbardo http://www.prisonexp.org/ and to another by researcher Stanley Milgram at Yale University in '61-'62 (http://www.stanleymilgram.com/milgram.html).

Check out the links. It's very interesting and informative reading and sheds some light on how essentially decent people have the potential to do extremely bad things given the 'right' circumstances.

I feel these well-known experiments provide more reason to hold the 'higher-ups' responsible for putting those guards in situations where they lack the proper training.

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