Which theocracy do you prefer?

There's little difference between the US Fundies and the Muslim Fundies.

to use for fundamentalists, since they do seem to appear to fund each others crusades and jihads, etc., at times even crossing belief lines in pursuit of defense contracts.

Fundies = "fun dies".

Where there are fundies, fun dies.

Get it?

same difference.

God damn it you type of people see the world just as black and white as the right wing ideologues it seems.

The US and Israel are not theocracies.

Try reading the first amendment some time.

And I for one am sick and tired of the BS propaganda campaign against Israel here. It is not a theocracy, or a racist state or any of that BS that ignoramouses here spew.

Israeli Arabs have voting rights, and a full range of other civil and political rights, and there are no "anti-miscegenation" laws, or other policies of racial segregation. So the apartheid claim is simply false.

The sense in which Israel is "Jewish" is essentially two-fold: Jews are favored in immigration, and the state represents Jewish culture in its flag, official holiday calendar, and some of the cultural programming it underwrites. Practically every nation in the world has some kind of similar favoritism in its immigration policy: ethnic Germans, who have lived for generations outside Germany, have a "right of return" to Germany; English-speaking people are favored to enter England, (and I think, the US, Canada, and Australia); only ethnically Dutch people can become Dutch citizens, etc. As for the representation of Judaism in the public square: one glance at the flags of Norway, Sweden, or Denmark demonstrates that many liberal countries are not at all shy about proclaiming themselves officially "Christian." Britain has not one but *two* crosses in its flag. Britain and Sweden both have official churches, and for a long time it was true, and still remains somewhat true, that you can't "really" be British or Swedish without also being Anglican or Lutheran. Saudi Arabia has a crescent on its flag, and is of course very loudly Islamic; so is Iran, and Pakistan was formed to be a home for (Indian) Muslims, as Israel was to be a home for Jews. Many countries, perhaps most, indeed do far more to promote Christianity or Islam (or Buddhism, in the cases of Burma, Thailand, and Sri Lanka) than Israel does for Judaism. Christmas is on the official calendar of most Christian countries, and in several (Poland, Ireland) it is difficult or impossible for politicians to defy the Church's teachings on many subjects. So: it is entirely untrue that Israel is the only country "based on" religion or ethnicity. If Israel is racist, so are Britain and Sweden and Pakistan and Thailand, among many, many others. And, given this widespread preference for ethnicities and religions other than Judaism, it is hard for many Jews to find a home outside of Israel. Someone who proclaims Israel to be basically racist is essentially just saying that they think the ethnic and religious identity of Jews doesn't matter - while the ethnic and religious identity of Germans, Anglicans, Indian Muslims, etc. all do matter. And that is anti-semitism: the racist hatred of or contempt for Jews

...might be those Orthodox Jewish women who keep getting bricks and chairs thrown at them for praying at the wall...

And if a nation "under God" isn't a theocracy, I must have read my dictionary wrong.

"Israeli Arabs have voting rights, and a full range of other civil and political rights, and there are no "anti-miscegenation" laws, or other policies of racial segregation. So the apartheid claim is simply false."

--Israeli identification papers/cards ID you according to religion: Jew, Muslim, Druze or Christian.

--Israel recently passed a law barring access to Israeli citizenship from Palestinian spouses of Israelis. The courts have upheld it so far.

--Palestinians expelled in '47, '48 and Palestinians in the occupied territories do not have any of the rights you just spelled out.

four men, naked, except for underwear, being paraded through public streets, bearing the cars and welts of 80 lashes on their backs?

For the crime of selling alcohol?

You are just silly if you think there is no difference between US fundies and Muslim fundies.

Silly.

You and Bombtrack make a good couple, never pass up an opportunity to slam Arabs, Palestinians or Muslims.

The world's first industrial church. More truth here than at the vatican.

<http://www.subgenius.com/>

The link wouldn't work for me, because my company blocked it for being under the category of "Non-Traditional Religions and Occult."

I'm sure the 700 Club website will work, though.

Not surprising, since the CEO of my work has been boycotting the French since the Iraq War started... :eyes:

and tells the truth in a radical, fun and funny way.

of the Utterly Indifferent."

and so does this guy....


Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. - Jesus Christ, Matthew 22:21

to read, "and this guy agrees"! Otherwise it sounds like you're saying bad things about theocracies AND Jesus equally.

KnowhatImsayin?

..but I see your point.

So, for the record, JESUS DOES NOT SUCK!! O8)

They where great patrons of the arts and had some fantatstic baroque architecture...some where even Electors of the Empire.

Heres an example..Wurzberg:



..and the interior:

They suck. Noone has a handle on what God wants and if they tell you they do they are either deluded or lying. Everybody has to find out for their own selves.

Now THERE's a deity who don't take no shit from no body!

eom

I would choose a Buddhist theocracy. The reason is simple. They really don't care if you believe in god or not. PLUS ... they are pacifists.

But 'theocracies stuck' is my choice, no matter what theocracies are listed.

I'll be damned if someone is going to tell me how to practice my faith.