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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 07:27 PM
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BWAHAHAHA! PERLE and other neocons march on White House,
find Condi to defend Chalabi!

Conservative Allies Take Chalabi Case to the White House
By ELISABETH BUMILLER
Published: May 29, 2004
WASHINGTON, May 28 — Influential outside advisers to the Bush administration who support the Iraqi exile leader Ahmad Chalabi are pressing the White House to stop what one has called a "smear campaign" against Mr. Chalabi, whose Baghdad home and offices were ransacked last week in an American-supported raid.

Last Saturday, several of these Chalabi supporters said, a small delegation of them marched into the West Wing office of Condoleezza Rice, the national security adviser, to complain about the administration's abrupt change of heart about Mr. Chalabi and to register their concerns about the course of the war in Iraq. The group included Richard N. Perle, the former chairman of a Pentagon advisory group, and R. James Woolsey, director of central intelligence under President Bill Clinton.

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The session with Ms. Rice was one sign of the turmoil that Mr. Chalabi's travails have produced within an influential corner of Washington, where Mr. Chalabi is still seen as a potential leader of Iraq.

"There is a smear campaign under way, and it is being perpetrated by the C.I.A. and the D.I.A. and a gaggle of former intelligence officers who have succeeded in planting these stories, which are accepted with hardly any scrutiny," Mr. Perle, a leading conservative, said in an interview.

Mr. Perle, referring to both the Central Intelligence Agency and the Defense Intelligence Agency, said the campaign against Mr. Chalabi was "an outrageous abuse of power" by United States government officials in Washington and Baghdad.

more at link... (actually really funny when you see WHO IS SAYING THERE IS ABUSE OF POWER!!!)

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/29/politics/29CHAL.html?ex=1086841761&ei=1&en=33ab7fc1adb98d89

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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 07:31 PM
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1. These guys are biggest bunch of dimwits...
Edited on Sat May-29-04 08:06 PM by physioex
Chalabi the leader of Iraq..HAHAHAHA The man has no constituancy, and is a theif. Let's start taking bets on how long this man lives...
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 07:54 PM
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7. check this out...
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 08:08 PM
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11. Thanks, I just did....EOM
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 07:59 PM
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8. I'll wager a buck, 2 months ,July 30th.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 07:32 PM
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2. Khrist...........
Can this mis-administration get any more Bizarre?? Looks like they are ALL out of control. This is like a good Saturday Night Live spoof.....LOL
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 07:36 PM
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3. Actually, I wonder how they managed to find Condi... she has been
so out of the limelight lately.
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didntvote4shrub Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 07:41 PM
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4. My exact reaction!
What the heck has she been doing, lately? The only place I've seen her mentioned much really was last week's "Boondocks."
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 08:01 PM
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9. She was hiding under her desk, Yellow Alert !!!!
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 07:53 PM
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5. What a bunch of stooges.
:wow:
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Senior citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 07:54 PM
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6. Tell us more, Mr. Perle
Edited on Sat May-29-04 07:56 PM by Senior citizen

"There is a smear campaign under way, and it is being perpetrated by the C.I.A. and the D.I.A.....," Mr. Perle, a leading conservative, said in an interview.

Let's see, Chalabi is smeared, thus loses credibility, and then when Chalabi and friends complain of smear campaign, they have very little credibility? Is that how it is usually done?

Can you back that up with some details of previous smear campaigns, Mr. Perle? We know their modus operandi, but have had problems obtaining corroborating insider information in the past.

Oh, and Mr. Perle, you might think twice before dissing the C.I.A. and the D.I.A. You might cause them to think that in order to defend their budgets, they might have to start a smear campaign against you, which might cause those who mistakenly thought you had some, to question your own credibility.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 08:05 PM
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10. Seems to me our dear mr. perle would be well-advised to remember
one of the major morals of this story, which is unfolding even as we speak. You piss off the CIA at your peril. I wouldn't go flailing away at that hornets' nest if I were he.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 08:14 PM
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12. In simpler terms...
Edited on Sat May-29-04 08:14 PM by physioex
What comes around goes around...Blowback is a bitch!! How stupid is Bunnypants to start an "internal war" within this government.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 08:24 PM
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13. The neocons are scared shitless.
They are fucking finished. They'll wind up with nothing.
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Senior citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 08:42 PM
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14. I wish....

"They'll wind up with nothing."

But I'm sure they've got trillions stashed safely offshore.

See? They did have an exit plan after all. x(
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 08:45 PM
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15. Isn't this bush's M.O.? Blind loyalty despite overwhelming evidence?
Well, Perle has to say something, doesn't he? To attack Chalabi is to attack the neocons, and to attack the neocons is to risk their losing control of the world! Bwahahahahahaha.

:nopity:
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 08:46 PM
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16. First corollary of the Law of Holes:
When your best friend is digging a hole, but you're standing in it,
shoot the bastard. Quick.
:D
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Miss Authoritiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 08:57 PM
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17. Notice the strict adherence to observed protocols.
The nondenial denial: "Jerry Bremer didn't initiate the investigation," (said)Dan Senor, the spokesman for the Coalition Provisional Authority. Maybe true, but did Bremer authorize the investigation? There are two other nondenial denials: one from the C.I.A. claiming that the accusation was "absurd" and one from the Defense Department stating that the accusations had "no foundation."

The sounds of silence: The current views of Wolfowitz, Cheney, and Scooter Libby are not known. Nobody is responding to phone calls and requests for interviews.

Cry rape: Call the campaign against Mr. Chalabi "an outrageous abuse of power" by United States government officials in Washington and Baghdad.

Blame the low standards of the press: "The C.I.A. and the D.I.A. and a gaggle of former intelligence officers...have succeeded in planting these stories, which are accepted with hardly any scrutiny."

Throw in that all important adverbial qualifier to protect your guy: "I know of no inaccurate information that was supplied uniquely by anyone brought to us by the Iraqi National Congress," Mr. Perle said.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 08:59 PM
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18. This is going to be stinking real bad in a few days ...
if it is not aired out...But they seem to have the lid on pretty tight....
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 09:38 PM
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19. All of them should be arrested for endangering our security and costing
the lives of over 800 of our military for an illegal invasion of a nation that had not even threatened to attack us.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:19 AM
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20. They are starting to eat their own. Kinda fascinating to watch.


One nice tidbit from the article:

snip>

The current views of Vice President Dick Cheney and his chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby, are not known. Both strongly supported Mr. Chalabi before and during the war in Iraq.

snip>


I love that idea that Cheney's current views "are not known." As if he's some sort of oracle that only speaks when the omens are right. Let's face it: he's in hiding.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:27 AM
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21. ok if this feces impacts the rotary blades....
how long before Perle is smeared with "...sour grapes..."

and/or "....not credible..." because he's connected to Woolsey

and the ever-loving "change the subject" and blame everything on Clinton?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:54 AM
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22. Neocons don't want to persecute poor mr. chalabi.
They don't give a shit about Gore or Kerry or Valerie Plame or any of the "liberals" that disagree with them.
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