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mot78 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 01:57 PM Original message |
Hydrogen Economy vs. Biodiesel |
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kalian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. Only thing about biodiesel.... |
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mot78 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Note what I said about rotation crops |
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TexasMexican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. The US still overproduces food |
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Leprechan29 (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. But... |
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Leprechan29 (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
3. Hydrogen |
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mot78 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. What about storage and compression of the gas? |
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Leprechan29 (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. That might be an idea, though I don't know how they could do it |
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rfjockey (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
7. Agree with you 100% regarding biodiesel |
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mot78 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I used to be in the Hydrogen camp until I read about the need for more Fossil |
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lanparty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. The beauty of hemp. |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Plus it can be made into bio-diesel or cellulose ethanol |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:00 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Hemp already plays a great part in the economy |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Respectfully disagree. |
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rfjockey (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 10:19 AM Response to Reply #11 |
38. Burning biodiesel does release carbon, but.... |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Soy diesel, how much per gallon? |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
9. Lose-lose |
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liberalron (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
10. Here in the "Eat Out" Nation, |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
13. Some problems with hydrogen. |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. This is no slam-dunk |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. People have too much faith that hydrogen will come to the rescue |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Actually petroleum has a negative energy balance |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
14. I have started |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. You'll probably need to change your fuel lines |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Thanks |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Find a Cat dealer to help you |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
15. It Won't Be Hydrogen |
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iamtechus (868 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
16. Thermal Depolymerization |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
18. Bio-Diesel comes from oils, grease and fatty waste |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Fatty waste? Would they subsidize liposucktion treatments... |
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lanparty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Why choose ???? |
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Massacure (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
21. Biofuels should be used. |
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lanparty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
23. Hydrogen is NOT a fuel ... |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Geo-thermal and nuclear are non-solar fuels |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Whats wrong with nuclear? |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Nuclear energy creates severe security problems |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:41 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. I will address you concerns |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:52 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. That doesn't quite do it |
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maggrwaggr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
37. what makes you think burning bio-diesel won't be as bad as now? |
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