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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 11:50 AM
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Apocalypse Bush... Is this TRUE?
We know * and Co. enjoy public displays of piousness and are always pandering to fundies. But if this administration is really contemplating the numerous Biblical end-times scenarios, then we're in bigger trouble than we imagined. If there's any truth to this, as reported on MSNBC.com, then heaven help us all.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/943879.asp?0cv=CB20
Aug. 13 — Is the Bush administration turning to a televangelist doomsayer for political predictions? Apocalyptic preacher Jack Van Impe is claiming that he was contacted by Condoleezza Rice’s office and the White House Office of Public Liaison for an “outline” of his take on world events.

Van Impe is the author of such books as “Israel’s Final Holocaust” and “The Great Escape: Preparing for the Rapture, the Next Event on God’s Prophetic Clock.” He has predicted that the end of the world will strike somewhere between 2003 and 2012 and one reviewer has called his TV preaching show with wife Rexella “a fantastically loopy apocalyptic take on the week’s news.”

The issue of the alleged involvement with the Bush administration came up on his Web site when someone asked Van Impe, “Do you think that President Bush, apparently a Christian man, believes and knows he is involved in prophetic events concerning the Middle East and final battle between good and evil?”

I believe he is a wonderful man,” Van Impe responded, and goes on to say, “I was contacted a few weeks ago by the Office of Public Liaison for the White House and by the National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice to make an outline. And I’ve spent hours preparing it. I will release this information to the public in September, but it’s in his hands. He will know exactly what is going to happen in the Middle East and what part he will have under the leading of the Holy Spirit of God. So, it’s a tremendous time to be alive.”

“My investigation into it is that there’s no truth to it,” National Security Council spokesman Sean McCormack told The Scoop, “but I’m continuing to look into it.”
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 11:56 AM
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1. That's wonderful
Van Impe is nuts...he has also claimed that UFOs are really being driven by demons.

I used to watch his show just for its bizarre, unintentional humor. I remember Van Impe used to sell videos about these demon-driven UFOs.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 11:58 AM
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2. OMG!!!
A televangelist has publicly borne false witness!!! What next?

The only thing that leads me to think that we may be living in The Time of the Apocalypse is the proliferation of False Prophets with profits. And satellite uplinks.
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mikeysnot Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 12:03 PM
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5. Corinthians 11
verse 13

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.


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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 12:05 PM
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7. Or in the case of Enron, Worldcom, et al.
False Profits :)
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rusk2003 Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 07:54 PM
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13. Jesus Said
Edited on Wed Aug-13-03 07:59 PM by rusk2003
Of that day or hour no one but God knows not the son or the angels in heaven. Matt24 36-44 People will die of fright for what is upon the world Luke 2 there will be signs in the sky,heavans ans massive earthquakes Luke 21:25-33 and also in 2Peter3 8-10 A day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like a day the end will come like a thief in the night. 2Peter2-4 false teachers exploting fear. All that other stuff to MY family along with Jack Van Impe think they know what God is thinking when JESUS doese not even know.

There has is and always will be sheeps in wolves clothing from Pharisees down to now.

It is so nice to have nice coomon sence disscussion with coomon sence people unlike my Fundamentalist family.

END TIMES talk is just a Religious Conservatives easy way well we don;t have to do nothing about anything the end isd coming we will just stick our heads in the sand as things get worse instead of trying to fix them.

A relitive of mine doese that so she can convice herself she can smoke like a freight train and not have to worry about the health risks.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 11:59 AM
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3. Nothing the Bush Crime Cartel would think or do would surprise
me! But if it doesn't have something to do with money or power grabbing I doubt they really are taken in! I think Bush views Gawd as a campaign tool!
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 12:04 PM
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6. Bingo! looking for Teleprompter copy...
What would play better out on the campaign trail that to say "y'know...I have talked....to Dr. Van Impe and...He says that we truly ARE....In the...Last...daze...I mean Days..."

So Condom-Sleazy does errands for Unkel Karl, too, eh?
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 12:01 PM
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4. Two words, remember Moab??
Right then I knew we were in trouble.
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 12:07 PM
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8. Let's see...If Bush & Cheney get swept up in the Rapture...
...Does that mean we get an honest vote in Florida in 2004??
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 12:16 PM
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10. No!
If the rapture happens noone will be left here but the Repus and They'll be shouting, "where'd all those damned Democrats go?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 12:11 PM
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9. No one finds it odd that MSNBC has this on it's website? Would we have
seen anything like this even a few months ago? What's Up with this?

It's really an odd story. Sounds like a "plant" by someone who is upset about something....If so, that's good.
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 12:19 PM
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11. Van Impe is insane.
The more horrifying the day's events, the more giddy he is. I can only imagine his glee level on 9-11. The scary thing is, even if Van Impe is fabricating about being contacted by Condi's group, you can't overlook the fact that there are serious End Times freaks at high levels of power in this country. You see their beliefs reflected in American foreign policies, environmental policies... everything they touch, they leave their special odor.
:scared:

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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 12:23 PM
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12. Now it is clear to me
They DO have exit strategy for Iraq after all. The world will end soon. Right.

Glad to know the "adults" are in charge again, its too bad they are all FRICKIN INSANE though.
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