why has god not stricken our president down for his evil deeds?

having just viewed the president speak to a crowd of gung ho marines, my doubts about god are seemingly confirmed. here is a man lying about the most ghastly atrocities and lying about people dying and soldiers dying and invoking the holy name of god to round it all out.
...don't you really think that if there were a real god, of justice and mercy and righteousness, that he, or she, would smite this slime of a slug with a small bolt of lightning?

how could a god of benevolence and love allow a man like this to continue to destroy thousands of people, and bring a mighty nation to ruin? how could god suffer this impostor and phony christian to bring so much suffering and evil in the coming months and years?
why would the creator who loves all his children not stop this man?

how can god allow all this horror? how can we?

Free will to make our own choices means free will to make the wrong choice.

Whatever. Yes, yes, it's all too far beyond our mere inferior mortal minds to know what the alfrighty's really up to. Of course, it's not beyond our pathetic limitations to completely KNOW that such a thing exists, now is it? People wonder why there are so many insane people; it's truly a wonder why there aren't more.

Didn't mean to slam you, just in a foul mood about religion today.

Why is it that the world seems to think that the less justification one has for his/her actions, the greater impunity one should be able to exercise them with?

Save an absolute crystal-clear, full on revelation, any humble person would admit some doubt. Admitting some doubt should put the whole thing into a "less important" category. Having done that, it should overwhelm the individual how many things need to be done in the world that can have an effect.

How dreadfully untidy; much better to whistle in the woods.

Free Willy!

We may deserve all this.......

I don't think the poor souls outside this country deserve our 'wrath'..... but I think it's more a question of the people getting right with ourselves and our 'opportunity' is to take bush out of power, clean up his messes (for which we are each personally responsible), and then look back and atone for the suffering we have caused from day 1.

We are being asked to clean up our acts -- and time will tell if we have answered that call.

On a metaphysical level, I don't blame Bush and the radical right. I think they are simply a symptom of a very sick society. I hope we rise to the challenge.

the opening lines of the first pamphlet from the White Rose anti-Nazi resistance group:

"Nothing is so unworthy of a civilized nation as allowing itself to be governed without opposition by an irresponsible clique that has yielded to base instinct. It is certain that today every honest German is ashamed of his government. Who among us has any conception of the dimensions of shame that will befall us and our children when one day the veil has fallen from our eyes and the most horrible of crimes - crimes that infinitely outdistance every human measure - reach the light of day?"

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people many years ago. How inspiring and prolific they were, it gives me hope that all the letters, calls, posts and time spent by all of us here will prevail and the truth will find its way into the light.

I often wondered how so many German citizens could have been so complicit to the horrors around them. Given the scare tactics, lies and propganda of this administration I am being made chillingly aware of how the Nazi machine flourished.

What a wonderful day when this crazed administration will be thrown out of office...I for one will be dancing in the street.

and humans hurl :puke:

Ol' YHWH has been killing Muslim women and children LONG before the Piltdown President arrived on-scene

His majestic plan is wholly unknowable

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a battle being waged in the spirit world between good and evil. So apparently the evil forces are in charge right now. I mean if you want to believe this, it could help explain what is happening.

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if there is a God, he/she/it waits for the end of the game to set the penalties. A hockey analogy. you play the game, you know the rules, but the ref never blows his whistle. Bastard, you think. And the other team is cheating like mad. Do you cheat as well? no, you do not. well, a little. and then the buzzer sounds. And as you get ready to go to the post-game banquet, the ref starts handing out the penalty minutes, cumulative, that everyone got over the course of the game. The other guys may have 'won' the game, but while you're sitting at the table eating your heart out, they're clocking time in the penalty box.

not that I believe any of this shit, but it could happen.

The standard excuse for God is "free will," which is no excuse at all, for the vast majority of people who have ever lived were never in any position to exercise any such thing as "free will."

If there is a God or Gods who cares about humans, or animals, or even about plants, then it is quite apparent that these Gods don't have the power to protect their creation from evil. After all, I love my pets and do my best for them, and at times they may look at me as a God who can magically appear with food and medicine and shelter and toys...yet I cannot protect them from every evil such as sickness, death, natural disaster. To my way of thinking, the kind, loving entities that some worship as Gods are clearly anything but all-powerful.

For me your two questions, "How can God allow this horror? How can we?" have only one answer -- for whatever reason, we obviously don't have the power to stop the horror, as hard as we've tried, and apparently our Gods don't either.

My personal thought is that we need to retire the word "God" because it falsely promises a power that the invisibles demonstrably don't have. If there are supernatural forces in the world -- and certainly at times there seems to be such forces -- they may be communicated with and perhaps harnessed or worked with in partnership -- but worshipping them or expecting them to come down from the mountaintop and spell out in words of flame, "You Idiots, can't you see that this man is the AntiChrist as foretold in the book of Revelations?" is going to be a major waste of time. The invisibles actually have less power than we do in many ways. They can only work around the edges.

The people of Haiti demonstrated that if you want Napoleon removed, it is not enough to stick pins in a poppet of Napoleon. They also got out there and put the French Army to the sword.

The situation in the U.S. is different. We cannot bear the thought of another terrible Civil War. We are not willing to take up the sword. We want peace.

and the terrorists.

and the liberals.

He is the embodiment of christianity. Not of that wimpy, selective, liberal type christianity, but a True Christian ™.