if I wanted to know what freepers thought, I'd f**king go there

enough with the Freepers threads.

I don't CARE what freepers think, I don't want to know what they're saying, and if I did, I'd go there, okay?

If you want to find out, go there. Post it somewhere else, not here.

don't open the thread. pretty simple if you ask me.

and I don't want to have to go through and click every goddamn post so it disappears.

My point is "IF I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE FREEPERS WERE SAYING, THERE'S A REAL EASY WAY TO DO THAT, AND THAT'S TO GO THERE"

Seems pretty obvious to me.

what if i say something that they'll use against us? maybe i should've have never said it in the first place, then they'll love me.

Give me a list of the things you want me to say, and I won't say anything that's not on the list, and maybe in return you'll like me and let me play in your club house.

I'll just follow the threads posted by the "over 1000 posts" folks (I hope I can distinguish between the "wise and sage elders" and those evil masquerading freepers), take careful note of what they say, and reply with "You Betcha" and a toast, taking special care to not include any of my own thoughts or observations:

:toast:

...or maybe a "kick" to show that I'm a REAL Democrat, not a lurking freeper:

:kick:

The kid who owns the ball gets to pick the team. Last time I checked, Skinner owns the ball, it's Skinner's call, and anyone else is blowing smoke up the collective arse.

I have been on DU for about 2 yrs, but just haven't managed to post over 1,000 for many reasons...Just LOOKING and also kept getting either smackdowns or forgetting my new password (I let someone come in on my password and like forgot what the hell the new one was)
Oh well!
My brother and I also wonder what the heck is going on that these crazy people that obviously belong to the right wing are doing here...Though I must say, I have not been able to access DU for quite some time and am working waaay too much to even worry about it.
I have access to the Freeper website, but don't have htge energy to do anything..
Anyways,.most of us pretty much just watch and don't post...

I just did a Google search on Freeper...okay, wing nut. I read the rules and such before signing up, and I even sent in a donation.

Perhaps Skinner is unable to audit all of this stuff and depends on people reporting infiltrators?

Has anyone tried reporting suspects via skinner@democraticunderground.com?

Sorry if this sounds naive.

:thumbsup:

We need to stop discussing what the insane over yonder are yapping about. Who cares? Once in awhile, IF it is a particularly outrageous or important item that DU'ers should know about then I think it's okay, but it does seem as if every tenth thread begun here lately is something about what that eijits are saying, and I can't stomach them.

Freepers as the athnesis of DUers have to be moniroted for the state of their dispositon in the psychological civil war that's going on in the country.

To speak of what they "think" is to discuss nothingness - an ephemeral illusion with less existential meaning than a fart in a windstorm.

it almost gives them a level of feigned "importance"

and they or their views are NOT important to me.

i know sometimes, it's fun to laugh and shake your head in disgust, but i agree du posts way too many "look at this freeper's comments" "did you hear what fox news just said" "rush thinks this"... i'm like WHO CARES?!?

n/t

by posting the babblings of their butt buddies over there. It's amazing how many freeptards have 1000 posts here. They are pretty transparent however and best dealt with throught ignoring them.

I've been loving the recent flood of single digit posters who post "non-partisan" hegiographic raygun apologisms and then whine that they are afraid they will be banned for their "innocent" opinions. Cowardly prevaricating slime and not surprising coming from the willfully ignorant volunteer slaves at felch repudlick.

told me that Reagan appointed pro choice Justice Sutter.:eyes:

Pappy Bush nominated Justice David Souter. Just proves once again that they don't know jack.

After all they want to know what's going on in our bedrooms...it only follows that they would want to peek inside our discussion boards...probably with a bottle of lotion and sticky keyboard.


GET ORWELL ROLLS IN HIS GRAVE from Buzzflash. Burn a copy and pass it on. Shatter the Illusion!!!

You can read in the newspapers and see on TV and hear on the radio enough freeper BS, without dragging it in on your posts.

sure, some of us are, i wonder fucking why? they invented this shit, they wrote the nastiness rules, now we play by them.

I have dealt with MANY a freeper on the internet and in real life. You know what they hate more than ANYTHING IN THE WORLD?

To be IGNORED.

Oh my God, it sends them into apocalyptic convulsions. They go postal. But there's nothing they can do and it drives them in-fricking-sane.

Watch (quietly, without saying anything over here) how fast they implode with ZERO attention from us and see if I'm not right.

it makes those who obsess on the freepers kinda pathetic.

By illustration, I went over to Conservative Underground to check it out, and it seems to be a site mainly devoted to obsessing about Democratic Underground! And THAT seems, well, pathetic.

when dealing with assholes. it shuts them down, or makes them go away. try it sometime, and watch the fun. they are always stunned that a liberal can also say something nasty, WITHOUT BECOMING LIKE THEM

We waste way too much time and energy obsessing over those people.

:evilgrin:

Your question is loaded, suggesting that they DO think. They don't.

:shrug:

Had to try the smilies feature. I LOVE it.

they're here. Take a look at the sudden influx of new posters tonight.

One of those filthy maggots got a DUer fired yesterday.

that your couldn't stop picking at?

Well, looking at FR posts is pretty much the same thing.

Sounds like some of my dates in the '80s.

(Yes, I knew what you meant.)

And while we're at it, how about a moratorium on threads that start "DRUDGE SAYS..."

here's what the freepers think of will pitt, look at what boortz is saying about mo, who the fuck fucking cares?

it's interesting to read that shit sometimes, but posting it here is silly

coming from you....after all, your thread from last week's Reagasm is going to lose the election for Kerry, don't you know?

Seriously, I too could give a flying fuck what a knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing Freeper thinks of my or any other post on this board.

on edit: didn't notice this was my 666th post. Hail Satan!



http://www.churchofsatan.com/

understood why one would choose for Satan vs God. Without God no Satan.....why would anyone choose for evil? - please explain. (in regard to image by lib71)

but fascist repudlickans don't understand humor.

Ergo. . .

Take a deep breath, gaze open-mouthed at my post number above, and ponder the context.


There you go

:freak:

I've felt that way for the 21/2 years I've been registered here. Never said anything, a lot of members with high post counts do it and I don't post much to begin with.

It sets up a false polemic that feeds itself. False because it places freeps on the same level, and the difference in the level of discourse
here MOST of the time is miles apart

As you rightly said, we all know how to find that shit on our own grown up self, thank you very much. No sense in giving up DU bandwidth to fascist propaganda, no matter how "amusing", "silly" or "disgusting" it may be. Let the brownshirts foot the bill.

and feel the exact same way! thank you!

I have always been dismayed with the importance that some DUers regard Freeperville.

I would also like that site to be mentioned in passing, as a bi-line to some post, but not in the prominent position they are given here lately!

To me it degrades DU and what we hope to stand for.

IMHO.

:kick:

DemEx

When DUers make those threads, I think it's really childish, sort of playground game, like, "Susie, do YOU know what Marcie is saying about you?" It's an immature thing that most of us outgrew by age 10.

Most of the time it's glibly defended by saying that we needed to "know our enemies." There's some truth to it, or else how else at DU would we have known that a freeper ratted out that jazz announcer in Mobile, Alabama?

Some recon work needs to be done, but 90 percent of the "what the freepers are thinking" threads are just plain childish.

Frankly, I don't give a shit what the freepers are thinking. I come to DU to be amongst liberals.

for me the problem is that when someone posts something about them here I read it because I just can't help but look. I could live the rest of my life though without ever having the need to hear or read a single thing about them in fact I would rather it be that way. I guess I need to curb my curiousity so that those who want to know what is going on with the freeps can have the freedom to read but I need to just skip it myself.

There is a Bush, Conservatives and Conservatism forum where the Freepers-hearsay threads are relevant enough to be posted. I think they're inappropriate to be posted anywhere else.

Why don't the moderators move those threads like they do so many others?

I post alot at Gaurdian Ulimited Talk. Tho a UK site, it has a sizeable contingent of freepers, so I dont need to go to Free Republic to know their opinions.

It makes for good comedy.

And some of the stuff in GD gets pretty depressing. It's nice to stop and have a good laugh once in a while.

And I do mean once in a while.

I'd hate to see this place become like that neocon "Wannabe Underground" site where barely literate freepers actually have an entire forum where they do nothing but jerk off over every little insignificant thread on DU. There are some pretty serious losers over there. Just pathetic.

A good ol' freeper bashing thread is cool once in a while, just so long as the entire forum doesn't turn into it.

Guess I got name-dropped over there. Heard they appreciate my work.

:hi:

Side note to the 'pretenders': No, I don't plan on posting over there. After all, you guys read DU more that your own wack-assed board. I'd get more of a response from you guys by posting here than over there.

And will get more of a response posting here...

The 'Wannabe Underground'...

censor postings on du?

DU already has rules for posting. There are things you can and cannot post, and thats a good thing. Those who appreciate the rules call them tools to protect the majority who desire a certain kind of civility in the site they frequent. Those who don't scream censorship.

Having an opinion that people shouldn't flood DU with freeper posts is no different. You can whine about censorship all you want, but these forums aren't absolutely free and never have been nor should they be. There are rules here. I'm not necessarily asking for a rule that makes posting freeper threads a no no, but the fact that this is a regulated forum means that people have more than enough backing and justification for exhorting the community not to behave in certain ways.

is not entitled to their opinion, did not scream, did not whine,never said forums are absolutely free or they should be. you are the one with the blah blah post which,if anything, is saying i don't have a right to call it as i see it. as you stated, there is no rule against freeper posts,so i believe an attempt to suppress them is a form of censorship. i said "i believe". there are a few types of posts that i am tired of also, so i simply do not read them. i would never have the temerity to suggest that i know better than others what should be posted on du. that's why there are rules and moderators. btw, it was the post that said the writer didn't want to have to click to hide threads that got me agitated in the first place. is that laziness personified or what? sorry i took so long to respond,i went out of town. "i may diagree with what you say, but i will defend...etc."

Some people like to post and read the Freeper threads. Sometimes I like to read them just to get my ire up. Sometimes I don't like to read them because I don't want to get pissed off.

Hope this f**king helps. Have a nice f**king day.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules.html

Do not post personal attacks or engage in name-calling against other members of this discussion board.

If you are going to disagree with someone, please stick to the message rather than the messenger. For example, if someone posts factually incorrect information, it is appropriate to say, "your facts are wrong," but it is not appropriate to say "you are a liar."

Do not publicly accuse another member of this message board of being a disruptor, troll, conservative, Republican, or FReeper. Do not try to come up with cute ways of skirting around the spirit of this rule. If you think someone is a disruptor, click the "Alert" link below their post so the moderators can deal with it. Unfortunately, it has become all too common for members of this message board to label anyone with a slightly different point of view as a disruptor. We disapprove of this behavior because its intent is to stifle discussion, enforce a particular "party line," and pre-emptively label a particular point of view as inappropriate or unwelcome. This makes thoughtful and open debate virtually impossible.

Democratic Underground is a "big tent" message board which welcomes a broad range of progressive opinions. As such, you are likely to disagree strongly with many of the comments you see expressed here. Please do not take these differences of opinion personally. The simple fact that someone disagrees with you does not give you the right to lash out and break the rules of this message board. A thick skin is usually required to participate on this or any message board.

Paragraph one and two and three are totally irrelevant to this. He's not disagreeing with one specific person, but with a trend of spending more time discussion the agenda of free republic than anything else. This happens all the time, and its not against any rule. I logged on last night to see SEVEN freeper threads on the first page. That's just pathetic.

The final paragraph, only makes his point: DU is supposedly a "big tent" message board - big tent for progressive opinions. Progressive. It is not "FreeperWatch.org" It's not "freebandwidthtoultraconservativeidiots.net" It's supposed to be a place where have our OWN agenda and ideas, not where we just sit around and bitch mock and gossip about other morons who are a total waste of time.

I don't want to go there all the time, but I am curious about thier reactions especially when 'their own guy' steps in it. I want to see some glimmer of hope that they have some standards, morals, character to express outrage at the failings of thier own leaders.


I keep hoping....

our families (close minded folks who need to be "told" what to think). If you can't change your own family member's minds why do you think you can change some people on a RW Message Board probably funded by Falwell/Scaife/Coors into thinking human beings who care about a civilized society.

If it's fun for you then go there. But, bringing their trash here only serves as disruption. :shrug:

My Baby Brother (40:)) voted Bush and is now anti Bush. My father ( John Bircher) is having serious doubts about Bush. My sister - a congenital repug has just seen the light ... Pretty amazing.

It's possible ... never thought I would see it...

I get sick of FR pollution all over GD - hell, it even infects the Lounge. My ignore list grows evey day because of breathless morons feeling the need to keep tabs on those assholes. I love the hide-a-thread too, but it does get tiresome having to use both features 20 times before you can even navigate through the muck as it is.

We KNOW what they 'think' already - they are on TV, the radio, and in the papers every day spewing their spin. This includes the so-called journalists. So I don't buy this "we need to keep tabs on the enemy" bullshit. I think these people who post what is going on over there just enjoy torturing themselves. Fine, but don't expect us to share your enthusiasm.

Fuck FR and the idiots who must keep us updated on them and other RW sites. I come on DU to escape that shit! :nuke:

enough with the complaining

I don't CARE what you want, I don't want to know what you want, and if I did, I'd ask you, okay?

give me a break - it's important / good information from time to time, and it's good to have multiple viewpoints, and if you think it's irrelevant, hide the thread.

So if you don't like it, go somewhere else. Post it somewhere else, not here.

Good bye - ow, and I haven't asked you yet.

right on!

:toast:

...let's all take some responsibility, and ask the moderators to move any freeper posts that appear to the "Bush, Conservatives, and Conservatism" forum. That way the people who see them as "opposition research" can find them, and the rest of us don't have to pollute our beautiful minds.

I post and the thread drops like a f**king lead balloon. Sorry for ruining the pointless-bitch-fest with an actual practical suggestion.

I've been thinking about the need for a separate place to move those posts but the Bush, & Conservatives forum would be perfect. I would love to see all of the "A freeper said this..." and "Some talking head said this" posts moved there. I'm also annoyed at headlines that say things like "Why do liberals hate America" and then the message is "help me debunk this myth" but the headline stays in GD all day.

I've finally had my morning shower. I feel better now.

They are no more relevant than people with six toes. (not meant to be a slam against people with six toes)

... but you're right, he's not to hard to figure out - maybe the freeper threads should be saved for special occasions of idiocy.

why would we ever need to go there when we have plenty of them posting racist crap over here?

:shrug:

... the ability to think, maybe I'll give a rat's ass what they think.

I'm not holding my breath.

I think it's funny to see them foaming at the mouth.

Also, it gives me a heads up as to what my favorite
wacknut is going to send me that day.

:evilgrin:

Don't know 'em, don't WANNA know 'em!

as it's not important what the right-wing "thinks." They DON'T think, or they wouldn't be right-wingers.

Posting Freeper garbage takes up space where Democrats want to read Democratic topics and Democratic opinions, and Democratic input.

You're 100% right: Anyone wanting to read Republican perspective can surely go to message boards at the NY Times and the Washington Post, Yahoo, etc., etc.

Rightwingers are NOT interesting. They are weak-minded and slow. They are destructive. They have nothing to offer, nothing of interest.

When I see someone linking a freeper thread in a post, I usually challenge them as to why they are doing this. As others have said, DU is best served by collectively ignoring them. If individuals wish to see what they think, they of course can go over and look themselves.

Maybe there needs to be a special section for those threads so that they dont pollute up the other areas?

I dont know about you, but I avoid the Freeper stuff because its just so neanderthal and disturbing. Why anyone would want to repost that crap here is beyond me. If you want to show what the Freeps are saying, just post a link or get a website for it all.

The first step in opposing those who would restrict our freedoms and force their repressive narrative upon the world is to be aware of them. As fully as possible.

(Perhaps in history our age may become known as the Age of the Imperative. Everyone feels they not only have a right but a duty to tell everyone else what to do, how to feel, etc. They blare it from every bumpersticker, on every talk show, in every barbershop. At DU there's usually a bit more tolerance.)

They just recently got someone fired. It's not their first attempt by a long shot.

They have to be watched and watched closely and people need their complacency rocked every once in awhile (or often for that matter).

These people are dangerous.

:shrug:

It was appearing to be cloaked propaganda, anyway.

Human nature I guess...

They are not CAPABLE of thinking. Want to know what they "think"? Listen to Meal Boortz, Sean Hannity, or Rush Limbaugh. The supposed "thoughts" of those scumsucking shite-brained fascist twats are merely tiresome repetition of whatever talk radio has put into their heads. They lack the intellectual capacity required for original or complex thought, and their vomitous spewings are beneath concern OR contempt.