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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:17 PM
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PamAm 103 victim's father: daughter's dead because of U.S. foreign policy
interesting interview on CNN this morning with one of the parents of a Pam Am Flight 103 victim, who put Carol Costello in an uncomfortable spot bashing U.S. foreign policy... great to have some of these live interviews like this bring us some truth.

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MOSEY: Well, he hasn't done that yet. It sounds as if it's imminent, but he hasn't done that yet. And anybody, even the most evil and unpredictable person, can repent, and thank God for that. We all need to repent of many things.

And, of course, the huge international pressure that's been put on him and that has forced him down this road with this whole, huge package, which isn't just money. It's renouncing terrorism, which he's done and not been found to be involved in terrorism. That he's released the two for trial in Holland, which he did. That he's cooperated with the inquiry, which he did. That he is ready to accept some guilt, and that he's ready to pay compensation. I think that's quite a long road to travel down, and it has brought us to a point where maybe we can count Libya a little bit nearer to being a friendly nation than an enemy. That's got to be good.

COSTELLO: You really think so? Because I just remember what the sentiment was in America back in the 1980s about Muammar Gaddafi and Libya. I mean, the United States attacked that country.

MOSEY: Yes.

COSTELLO: It's just a strange thing to think that we could have good relations with Libya and Muammar Gaddafi.

MOSEY: Look, on this side of the Atlantic, I think these things are largely viewed in a very different light. The bottom line, and a lot of people won't like (UNINTELLIGIBLE), but the bottom line is, and my daughter is dead, if the Libyans are guilty, she's dead because of the Libyan attack on Tripoli. And the reason for that, the Valdel (ph) disco has never yet been proven; rather the reverse. My daughter is dead because of American foreign policy, and so I find that difficult to accept as the terrorists, whoever they were, who did it.

COSTELLO: Explain that, sir. Why is it American policy's fault?

MOSEY: That they struck against a country on floozy evidence, which has since proved to be totally unreliable.

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0308/14/lad.04.html
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:36 PM
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1. a book which was banned in the U.S.
...but which was published in England was written by a former American intel agent who had to seek asylum in Sweden, or Denmark because of he published records which proved that Libya was not behind the Lockerbie bombing.

I tried to get this book, but it is VERY EXPENSIVE.

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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 09:37 PM
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3. I agree -- this was a BFEE op, not Libya's doing.
I'm not familiar with the book you're talking about, but some time back I came across some interesting bits and pieces of the possible/probable REAL story. I know I posted some of it here, but I have no idea how to find that old thread in the DU-1 archives.

One bit I CAN access again is from the bushbodycount website:

http://www.bk2k.com/bushbodycount/iran-contra/bodies2.shtml

Charles M. McKee and Matthew Gannon

Charles M. McKee, ostensibly a military attache for the DIA in Beirut, Matthew Gannon, CIA Deputy Station Chief in Beirut, and three others were on board Pan Am Flight 103, which exploded over Lockerbie, Scotland. They were part of a counterterrorist team in Beirut investigating the possible rescue of 9 American hostages in Lebanon.

The McKee team uncovered evidence that a rogue CIA unit called COREA, based in Wiesbaden, was doing business with a man called Monzer Al-Kassar, a Syrian arms dealer and drug trafficker. Al-Kassar was part of the covert network run by U.S. Lieut. Colonel Oliver North. Outraged that the COREA unit in Wiesbaden was doing business with a Syrian who had close terrorist connections and might endanger their chances of rescuing the hostages, the McKee team decided to fly back to Virginia unannounced and expose the COREA unit's secret deal with al-Kassar.

They never got there. "For three years, I've had a feeling that if Chuck hadn't been on that plane, it wouldn't have been bombed," said Beulah McKee, 75, Charles McKee's mother, to Time Magazine. Four months after her son was killed for his efforts to expose the CIA, Mrs. McKee received a sympathy letter from George H. W. Bush. Mrs. McKee has never been satisfied with the government's version of events.


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MORE HERE:

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5260/mckee.html

COVER STORIES: PAN AM 103 WHY DID THEY DIE?

Almost immediately after the Pan Am bombing, which killed the 259 people aboard the plane and 11 more on the ground, the prime suspect was Ahmed Jibril, the roly-poly boss of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (P.F.L.P.-G.C.). Two months earlier, West German police had arrested 16 members of his terrorist organization.

Seized during the raids was a plastic bomb concealed in a Toshiba cassette player, similar to the one that blew up Flight 103. There was other evidence pointing to Jibril. His patron was Syria. His banker for the attack on the Pan Am plane appeared to be Iran. U.S. intelligence agents even traced a wire transfer of several million dollars to a bank account in Vienna belonging to the P.F.L.P.-G.C. Iran's motive seemed obvious enough. The previous July, the U.S.S. Vincennes had mistakenly shot down an Iranian Airbus over the Persian Gulf, killing all 298 aboard.

Suddenly, last November, the U.S. Justice Department blamed the bombing on two Libyans, Abdel Basset Ali al-Megrahi and Lamen Khalifa Fhimah. The scenario prompted President Bush to remark, ''The Syrians took a bum rap on this.'' It also triggered an outcry from the victims' families, who claimed that pointing the finger at Libya was a political ploy designed to reward Syria for siding with the U.S. in the gulf war and to help win the release of the hostages. Even Vincent Cannistraro, former head of the CIA's investigation of the bombing, told the New York Times it was ''outrageous'' to pin the whole thing on Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi.

A four-month investigation by Time has disclosed evidence that raises new questions about the case. Among the discoveries:
* -- According to an FBI field report from Germany, the suitcase originating in Malta that supposedly contained the bomb may not have been transferred to Pan Am Flight 103 in Frankfurt, as charged in the indictment of the two Libyans. Instead, the bomb-laden bag may have been substituted in Frankfurt for an innocent piece of luggage.
* -- The rogue bag may have been placed on board the plane by Jibril's group with the help of Monzer al-Kassar, a Syrian drug dealer who was cooperating with the U.S.'s Drug Enforcement Administration in a drug sting operation. Al- Kassar thus may have been playing both sides of the fence.
* -- Jibril and his group may have targeted that flight because on board was an intelligence team led by Charles McKee, whose job was to find and rescue the hostages.


And even more here: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5260/tanfeng.html

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Another tantalizing news bit:

http://www.ahwatukee.com/afn/community/articles/000315a.html

Depleted Uranium and Pan Am flight 103

<snip>
According to Byers, the timing device used to set off the explosive wasn't of European manufacture, but was a unique design made exclusively for the Central Intelligence Agency.

<snip>
But, according to Byers, the downing was to cover up evidence that some rogue CIA agents were selling weapons to terrorists.

On the flight were John McKee and Matthew Gannon, both are described by some as CIA "assets." The two are alleged to have been present at a meeting at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in July 1986 where then vice-president George Bush was briefed by Amiram Nir on the sale of arms to Iran through Israel.

It is now known that American anti-tank TOW missiles were traded with Iran for the release of American hostage Ben Weiss. Nir, who supposedly went with American officials to Teheran in May 1986 to set up the arms-for-hostage deal, died under what some call mysterious circumstances in a airplane crash in Mexico just days before the Pam Am flight was ripped apart.


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I know there's more to be found...

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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 11:11 PM
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4. I posted a link to a portion of the book online
and thanks for your links!
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:46 PM
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2. and what will be the the blowback
of attacking Iraq on similar weak evidence?!? they pay attention to history over there.
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