Since "under God" was added in '54 in reaction to godless communism

homelandpunk

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Mon Jun-14-04 10:46 PM
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Since "under God" was added in '54 in reaction to godless communism

which was the big enemy at that time, I propose we add further to the pledge in reaction to Jesus-less militant Islam, the big enemy at this time.
"One nation, under God, not Allah, indivisible"...etc.
Or if that is considered too broad, we can clarify:
"One nation, under God, not Wahabiist Islam's Allah, indivisible..."

If the pledge needed to be updated to make a religous point during the Red Scare, now it is even more important to make sure the God part is interpreted correctly as a Judaeo-Christian God and not the God of enemies of the US.

Don't you agree?

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shraby

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Mon Jun-14-04 10:53 PM
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1. Nope, can't agree with it.

There is only one God, not one for Muslims, one for Jews and one for Christians.

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homelandpunk

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Mon Jun-14-04 10:57 PM
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3. Wow, and I thought I wrote with obvious tongue in cheek.

Oh well.
Never claimed to be a skilled writer. Still, I have to kick myself for not nailing it like I thought I did.

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BlueEyedSon

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Mon Jun-14-04 11:10 PM
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7. Or none, or many.

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

--Stephen Roberts

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Cleita

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Mon Jun-14-04 10:57 PM
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2. I get your sarcasm.

There were a lot of people who didn't like the "under god" addition to the pledge even back then in the fifties, but they didn't really speak up as a unified block of citizens, so now this has bubbled up fifty years later. I think cherrypicking issues like this only wins battles not the war. We need to go after the whole issue of separation of Church and State and make it stick this time. Religious people have to understand this protects their rights too.

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DBoon

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Mon Jun-14-04 11:02 PM
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4. "One nation, under Christ

with individual redemption for the saved"

If you are going to express the sectarian push behind this "under god" nonsense, you may as well go all the way.

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SarahB

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Mon Jun-14-04 11:05 PM
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5. The Pledge should go back to the way it was originally written in the 20's

By a Socialist nonetheless.

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SheilaT

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Mon Jun-14-04 11:09 PM
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6. None of this addresses the idiocy of the Pledge in the first place.

Think about it. Pledging allegiance to a. . . flag?!? What's that about. The flag is a symbol, a piece of cloth. A powerful symbol, but not itself what this country is about. I'll pledge allegiance to our Constitution, but not the flag.

Which is really getting me odd looks these days, especially when I'll stand quietly, but not pledge at some kind of political gathering.

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shraby

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Tue Jun-15-04 12:36 AM
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8. I missed the sarcasm..sorry

but I've seen similar posts that weren't sarcasm, such as someone's God being better than another persons.
I remember the pledge without the "under God" and was surprised when I heard it in there for the first time. Thought maybe I remembered it wrong or something.
I'm not a flag-waver and when I see a whole bunch of flag waving like after 9/11, all I could think was..oh oh, there's some more bad stuff coming down the pike..and there was.
Two things make me nervous. Flag waving and God spouting rhetoric. Neither one is conducive to a peaceful situation for very long.

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