11PM CBC reports nuclear power plant on fire in Pennsylvania, true?????

I'm on vacation about 100 miles north of Toronto. Power just came back on about 20 minutes ago. We were listening to battery radio about an hour ago and a Canadian government official reported a fire at a nuclear plant in Pennsylvania but the US authorities were playing it down to avoid panic.

Just a heads up. Watching CNN now and nothing about it so maybe it's probably not true.

I listened to local news radio on the way home. Heard nothing. However, only a very small portion of Northwestern PA was effected by the blackout.

I heard him interviewed on MSNBC.

But I find the Canadian response to be most curious. First it's a lightning strike in NY, now this. If it's all natural, from high demand, why all these different explanations?

Ontario province sells a LOT of power to the UNited States.

But I find it strange that CBC would report that, which is odd if it wasn't true.

http://www.dunnconnect.com/articles/2003/08/14/ap/Headlines/apnews127219-02.txt

Canadian Defense Minister John McCallum gave reporters in Ottawa conflicting accounts when he mentioned a Pennsylvania fire. He did not name the plant or provide further details and later appeared to back off, referring to an "outage" at the plant.

"The fire started at a nuclear power plant in Pennsylvania," McCallum said. "The origin of the problem is a fire in Pennsylvania which has caused a cascading effect in the rest of the region."

:evilfrown: :tinfoilhat: :shrug: :wtf: ????????

try copying and pasting it into your browser.

Thanks! :) The first couple of times I tried I got a 404 not found error with an Apache server message.
Keep an eye on this story. This 'cascade' should NEVER have occurred after the last 2 times this happened.

saved, etc.

Ap

Canada Seeks to Explain Blackout's Cause

By TOM COHEN

TORONTO - Canadian officials gave conflicting explanations for the massive blackout
across the Northeast and parts of Canada on Thursday, blaming the outage on a fire,
possibly at a Pennsylvania power plant, after initially saying a lightning strike was responsible.

U.S. officials in New York and Pennsylvania dismissed both claims.

Several hours after the power went out, Jim Munson, a spokesman for Canadian Prime
Minister Jean Chretien said: "We have been informed that lightning struck a power plant in
the Niagara region on the U.S. side." The premier's office later said a fire at the Niagara plant
in New York caused the blackout, while the defense minister said the fire was at a
Pennsylvania nuclear plant.

"That is absolutely not true," said Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency
spokeswoman Maria Smith. "It's bizarre. We have a direct line to each of our five (nuclear)
power plants and they are all running at 100 percent ... There's not even a trash can fire, we
would know."

Brian Warner of the New York Power Authority said he wasn't sure where the power failure
originated.

"The New York Power Authority's Niagara Power Project has at no time during this incident
cease to operate. We also have not experienced a lightning strike at that facility," he said.

Canadian Defense Minister John McCallum gave reporters in Ottawa conflicting accounts
when he mentioned a Pennsylvania fire. He did not name the plant or provide further details
and later appeared to back off, referring to an "outage" at the plant.

"The fire started at a nuclear power plant in Pennsylvania," McCallum said. "The origin of the
problem is a fire in Pennsylvania which has caused a cascading effect in the rest of the
region."

U.S. officials were looking at a power transmission problem from Canada as the most likely
cause of the biggest outage in U.S. history, said a spokeswoman for New York Gov. George
Pataki. There was no sign of terrorism, officials in New York and Washington agreed.

In Canada, blackouts were reported in Toronto, as well as Ottawa in the province's eastern
reaches and in much of Ontario. The blackout had not spread as far as Thunder Bay in
northwestern Ontario, suggesting power in the north was sporadic.

Power was also knocked out on Parliament Hill, leaving scant emergency lighting.

snip

Grover said the power company, Ontario Hydro, was in the process of separating itself from
the American power grid in order to restore electricity to its customers.

An official at the Ontario power company agreed, saying the problem originated elsewhere.

"We're confident that the trigger for this widespread outage did not occur on our system,"
said Al Manchee. "There was no indication that there was anything wrong in our system prior
to the outage."

He said power was being restored slowly, with substantial progress expected throughout the
evening.


dp

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N14284376.htm


"It was caused by a power outage at a nuclear plant in Pennsylvania," said Thoren Hudyma, a senior spokeswoman for the Prime Minister's Office in Ottawa.

But U.S. grid operators dismissed the comment, saying Pennsylvania's nuclear plants had been operating smoothly and that the blame lies elsewhere.

"The only plant that was lost in our region was Oyster Creek in New Jersey and it tripped as a normal protective measure when the northern New Jersey area tripped," Phillip Harris, president and chief executive of PJM Interconnection, the Mid-Atlantic power grid operator, told reporters.

the defense minister did not name the plant in Pennsylvania where he believed there was a fire or give further details. But his spokesman later said that McCallum and other Canadian officials were getting their information from a variety of sources, including some in the United States, as the situation unfolded.

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20030814_2120.html

Beaver Valley 1-2,Shipping Port, Pa.
Limerick 1-2, Limerick Township, Pa.
Peach Bottom 2-3, Peach Bottom Township, Pa.
Susquehanna 1-2, Berwick, Pa.
Three Mile Island 1, Londonberry Township, Pa.

any idea which one?

dp

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/health/0112/nuclear.popup/content.html


on edit: hopefully this link won't time-out.

" "Preliminarily we're looking at this as a possible transmission problem from Canada to the U.S.," said Pataki spokeswoman Lisa Dewald Stoll. She said the problem appeared to be in Canada, but she had no details.

Bloomberg said the outage appeared to have originated in the power grid near Niagara Falls. "

But then...
"Black smoke poured into the air from a power substation near 14th Street in New York City, but Bloomberg said that was normal - a function of the automatic shutdown of some of the city power system."

who knows...

http://www.canada.com/news/world/story.asp?id=09E00409-BC1C-42E9-AFCE-5B68A26BC04A

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"That is absolutely not true," said Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency spokeswoman Maria Smith. "It's bizarre. We have a direct line to each of our five (nuclear) power plants and they are all running at 100 percent ... There's not even a trash can fire, we would know

How would that help the economy?

When a plant powers down suddenly it emits steam, it'll look like smoke, but it is perfectly normal. Sorry, no link, but the person who stated said that there had been reports of fire and it was in fact smoke. I'm thinking that makes sense for now.

Not admitting to a fire though.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=67473

Jay

so I'll provide one to tide us over.

The Susuquehanna station in Berwick is less than 20 miles from me. My husband works directly across the river from the plant so he'd know immediately. No sirens.....no problem.

speaking tonight.)

I'm sure they wouldn't hide anything that important from us, aren't you?

Think about how much money that would mean to investors.

Maybe this explains the blatant bizarre efforts to blame it on an act of God or whatever/

"Oh - it was just lightning at Niagara Falls that caused it all. No worries"

Halliburton makes nukes and NUKES are THE business of this presidency.

They would not want any nuke plants to look bad if they can keep poisoning us and taking our money on drugs.


See Radiation.org and bookmark it. You WILL need this info one day to protectr yourself. Maybe tonight/


Kelp (potassium iodine) and calcium protect you a lot from radiation if it is a Nuke fire.

Bush's merry men are going to be busy little bees this weekend.

and what about the war on terror (if it were terror). Bush put on that show yesterday with the missile launcher bs. What if the next day we learn we're not all that safe.

By the way, if nuke plant blew out the grid, that make sense in that they keep saying that measures taken since the 65 blackout should have prevented this. Well, they didn't have nuke plants in 65, so maybe they create problems nobody knew about then.

The dollar and the stock market doesn't mean a damn to them because they are here to rob America Blind!!!!

They can print their own damn "Monopoly" dollar any time they want!

W-Tin-Foil-Hat, aka What-The-F-Happened.

I'm in PA, and nobody's running for cover around here.