So the Admin is rolling out Zarkawi as the al Qaeda connection to Iraq?

Is that their new errr old strategy? Yesterday D. Cheney uttered again that al Qaeda had connections with Saddam's regime. Today they asked Bush to back up those claims and he (in a nano-second) yelled Zarkawi!

I don't think that it was proven that Zarkawi was in Iraq before the war and Jordanian officials have long claimed that Saddam wanted to arrest the Son of a Bitch.

Apparently the Bush regime now feels it's comfortable enough to drag out the old Saddam, al Qaeda connection ...... The Bush admin for the last several months has made sure to announce that every single incident in Iraq is related to Zarkawi... Tell a lie enough and you know what happens...Here they go again.

First it was a connection between 9/11 and Saddam. When that didn't work it switched to Al Qaeda and Saddam. That didn't pan out either. Then it changed to Al Qaeda and Iraq (pre-war), and that was a no go as well.

Now they have finally moved the goal post so close that it can't miss. Al-Qaeda is now in Iraq so that proves the war was justified.

They're disgusting.

and tried to connect Zarkawi to Saddam. Of course, they have zero evidence to back up their claims, but when did that ever matter?

believe the opposite. I'm surprised he could pronounce Zarqawi. And of course, that's no "proof" of Saddam as extensive "terror client."

If so, then we are just as guilty as Saddam.

Did we not "host" Atta as a student? (as Zarqawi was "hosted" at an Iraq hospital while he got a prosthetic leg)

any assertions about Zarqawi's whereabouts and activities should be held up to great scrutiny. All I hear is wishful thinking. Or that Z is dead. Or that he was given shelter in Kurdistan--"OUR" Iraqi territory for years. So did we not host him rather than Saddam?

The shrub is ridiculous.

They can get any story they want out of the detainees.

"Did Zakawi and Hussein know each other?"

CUE GROWLING DOG...

"Yes! Yes! Anything! I'll sign anything!"

Who was supposedly in an area of Iraq that was not even under Saddams control?

Yeah, that's a solid case right there.

It was a joke before the war, it's a joke now.

Bush said it over and over and over in his Karzai conference and in his G8 speech.

They are going to say it over and over and over.

It will soon be -perceived as truth.

We invaded Iraq because we wanted to get rid of Saddam because he gassed his own people. We wanted to bring freedom to the Iraqi people.

Nevermind this is a total lie. Nevermind this is a total reversal of what we were led to believe--the lie that SAddam had WMD and even Nukes that were aimed at us and could hit at any moment. We KNOW and we KNEW that was a damn lie and was impossible, given the military capacity of Iraq.

and NO ONE

NO ONE

NO ONE

NO ONE

including our Democratic candidate, John Kerry

will say otherwise.

Why not? What is there to lose by pointing out the lies, and the lies and more lies of Bush and Cheney and the rest of them

Why the hell NOT?

This is indeed,imo, a total corruption on both sides of the aisle.

Freaking cowards...

They've seen the polling, MOST Americans think torture works. After all, it works on "24" and any Bruce Willis or Arnold Scwarzenegger action film...

so how the heck can the Iraqis co-operate?

How much info would you be able to give
if I was asking YOU questions in Arabic?
How much more info would you be able to give
AFTER I kicked your ass
and asked you the same question
AGAIN
in Arabic?

We could be there all day.

"I'm waiting for ANY Dem to question info obtained via torture..."

Canadian guy, too cheap to get expanded cable or satellite...

But that's GOOD news...

they are under Bush's couch...nope not there...hardy har har. I'm STILL laughing over that one, 887+ dead soldier laughs later...what a FUNNY guy!

Of course. It's their specialty.

Even if it were true, what person would vote to have over 800 of our troops killed, spend over $100 billion, kill thousands of Iraqis, ruin our good relations with the rest of the world because Saddam had contacts with Zarkawi?

too logical, of course

it would be wise for the dems to have that ready the next time the pugliars bring up this rancid, stinkydead, red herring

THEN, they should have the other facts about Zarqawi at their fingertips, the ones that show just how bogus this line of "reasoning" is

will they?

or to arrange a Celebrity Death Match between Saddam and the Bushnic.
He said it would spare the soldiers and the civilans of both nations.
Next thing I heard was that Dubya can three miles without stopping even once.

for just about every attack everywhere in the world, i think he's becoming a generic boogeyman. As of a couple of weeks ago he wasnt even on the FBI'
s most wanted list.

On edit: he still isnt on the list http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/terrorists/fugitives.htm

I don't recall ever hearing his name until he suddenly developed his terrorist super power to be everywhere and involved in every terrorist attack at once.

a lot more people died in his name than any amateur terra ist

Jesus or Jacques?

Kath Gourlay


Thanks to the reputation of the man it is said to have covered, there is always likely to be controversy over the origins of the Turin Shroud. The "negative" image of the bearded face will forever be associated with the popular image of Jesus Christ. Radio-carbon dating identified the cloth as medieval more than a decade ago, but, desperate not to lose the Shroud’s religious significance as one of the world’s most potent relics, many people continue to challenge this scientific evidence.

One of the most recent explanations of the Shroud’s history, however, does not question the findings. The claimants agree that the fabric, with its curiously imprinted image, is medieval. Where they differ from all the previous research, however, is over the identity of the Shroud’s former occupant, and their conclusions are bound to provoke heated debate.

Bradford University lecturer Robert Lomas and colleague Christopher Knight claim they can link science and history to prove that the face on the shroud is that of a priest whose followers helped Scotland to win independence from England in the 14th century.

"The scientific facts leave me in no doubt," says Dr Lomas, a physicist who now lectures in Information Systems. "The cloth was used to wrap Jacques de Molay, the leader of a monastic order known as the Knights Templar and whose followers were given refuge by Robert the Bruce."

more...

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/s2.cfm?id=338412002

ohhhh, the things you learn at DU!!!

If they only hear the lie....

Bush and Cheney tried this same tag team play 7 months ago.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/18/iraq/main584234.shtml

The idea is to tie Iraq to 9/11 by making a big deal about the tenuous Zarkawi connection of Iraq to Al Qaeda.

These guys are just plain dishonest. It's like saying you're going to take someone to meet Bruce Springsteen, but instead you take them to meet someone who has met Springsteen. They encouraged everyone to believe that Saddam had something to do with 9/11. And rather than prove it, they skulk into weasily little fake arguments like this Zarkawi thing.

Anyone who has an ounce of respect for their own intelligence should find this administration insulting.